And this post is another timeline/summary that fits in between the two that include things I couldn't fit into the post above - live the Teen Choice Awards, all those 'who is dating Robert today' rumors and a bunch of other stuff.
This post (below) includes stuff from both timelines. It also includes the most recent PR assaults that have been coming down; AND thoroughly debunks those damn 'staged stunt' and 'fake photo' theories. Looking at the big picture really helps puts things in perspective.
This long post below is a Robsten Timeline
It starts from DAY ONE of the 2nd 'robsten trial separation'
LIES and covers everything from 'fake photos' to the
SMEAR CAMPAIGN and the reasons why gossip
rags are so MEAN to us Twihards.
For instance, did you know that there was a HUGE dust-up over the casting of Robert Pattinson as Edward Cullen? And no, alot of overly-obsessed fans weren't that crazy about Kristen's casting, either - and yeah, that's when these Hollywood PR Assaults STARTED on the Twilight Fanbase. NONE of these relentless attacks are new - they're just as MEAN as they can be now because this situation has supposedly given them permission to extend these assaults for so long and be so UGLY!!
There are SO MANY details that alot of us movie fans are/were missing out on. I just happen to be one of those Twilight MOVIE Fans (no, I am not one of the original book fans who originally started this debate) who began questioning Twilight and then went out to look them up.
This is yet another long, detailed post I did at the beginning of these PR assaults to help explain to clueless Twilight Fans and young girls WHY so many of us OLDER TwiFanladies are so overly-obsessed with this pretty fairytale.
This IS NOT a mean post - for the most part, some of you might find it somewhat 'biting' in places. But, I've received very good feedback from this post from Twilight Fans who were/are in so much - beyond 'normal' - PAIN about this subject - which was the reason why I wrote it.
While some of you long-standing Twihards might be a little angry with me about this post (as well as many other ones in here) - I HAVE SAID that I will DELETE THESE BLOGS if you Twilight Fans will come through and initiate REFORMS in Hollywood. ;)
I really would appreciate it if you would give me a break in here if you read something that offends you. Absolutely NONE of this has been easy or fun for me to do.
TwiFans who are clueless are very confused; and those who have been in on Twilight from the beginning and who took this debate on at the time are basically running away like cowards (many times, not without telling me off, first - ha!)
WHETHER you are clueless or not - again, I am NOT your TwiEnemy, TwiFans. If you judge this blog because it's based on a subject matter that you're opposed to, you'll be doing a serious disservice to HUMAN people who are CURRENTLY IN PAIN because of their over-obsessions with Twilight - not to mention, their favorite HUMAN Actress & Actor, Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson.
YES, this IS WORTH your time!!
Update 7/19/13 - Okay, let's address this 'FAKE PHOTO' controversy again, especially since they seem to be so out of hand at the moment...
At one point, I was in contact with one of these sites that supports this theory, maybe you've heard of it: Justice for Kristen with 'Twilighter' and some other stubborn individual who obviously doesn't give a crap about YOUNG (and young-at-heart) Twilight Fans. (You'll read all about that below, it was real fun, ha!)
From my perspective, sites like these have been NOTHING but HARMFUL for fans with the further DIVISION and arguments they have caused among us.
Recently, I attempted FIVE TIMES to get them to remove a favorable comment I left on their blog a long time ago before I was fully aware of just how harmful it was - because with all these extra 'fake' inquiries I've been receiving in email, I worry that it encourages people to read their blog and/or it gives validity to it.
I don't want to be any part of that - so naturally, I told them to remove it.
FINALLY, this was the response from Twilighter:
I will say this once. You'll are entitled to your point of view as are we. So don't waste your time and mine by continuing to tell me what you think. I get it, I 've seen what you have written. But we simply disagree.
It should be noted that NOT ONCE has either one of them EVER actually responded to any of my VALID, critical comments left on their blog with this one exception - no debate, no reasoning, just stonewalled SILENCE, and of course; not letting my comments through on their blog - something that DOES NOT ALLOW for a DEBATE! This guy is supposed to be a LAWYER - which is probably why SOME fans are believing their crap, but he's not looking at the WHOLE PICTURE - maddening!!
(continuing...) This is not about how some young girls feel. This is about multi-million dollar tabloid media corporations selling lies for fun and profit (DUH!!!). And some people that are stupid enough to believe them. If you don't like what I have to say, then don't read it. And be aware that once you make a comment on the internet, you run the risk that it will remain there. I am fully aware of that, and am more than comfortable with it.
Can I just say, JERK?!!
Twilight Fans ARE NOT STUPID - fans who 'can't get past this' for whatever reason are STRUGGLING in an intense obsession with specific beliefs surrounding those obsessions that are HARD to get past. It DOESN'T MATTER whether or not their obsessions are REAL - their feelings, right OR wrong, surrounding this subject ARE!!
If you don't believe me about this, then you really do need to keep reading, I'll SHOW YOU.
So, essentially, Twilighter and his friend are FAR MORE CONCERNED about corporations making money the underhanded way they do ALONE. The hearts and minds of the fanbase who are knowingly and intentionally being bashed at CONSTANTLY by Hollywood's gossip rags (and HURT by their OWN erroneous message on TOP of that) means absolutely nothing to them - or many of you out there, obviously.
This is a COMPLETE MYSTERY to me. Their problem is that they have the debatable FACTS laid out as perfectly as they can, but they are completely ignoring the HEART (and motive) of the matter. There are very few controversial comments on their blog, apparently because they don't like to argue/prove their own points.
I've already debunked these 'fake photo' theories several times over within this post - you can read it, believe it or not.
But for Heaven's Sake - DON'T make things WORSE by not acknowledging the FACT that the obsessions of Twilight Fans is at the CENTER of these messes.
These Hollywood PR Assaults and our obsessions go hand in hand. It is the tool Hollywood USES to manipulate us.
I honestly do not see how I can say or prove that anymore clearly than I already have.
COME ON, if anything, Summit Entertainment would NOT HAVE WANTED Kristen and Robert to be in a romantic relationship!! Hollywood DOES NOT write things like 'publicity relationships' into movie contracts!!!
|This is US, Twihards...|
Keep reading, I'll show you
HOW and WHY they continue
to pit us against each other.
Or the other way around... I've heard people exclaim, "SHE threw HIM out!"
If this was REALLY all part of some pre-conceived conspiracy (there are so many of them, I'm not even going to honor one of them by pointing one out) - WHY has this breakup come down so fast and hard?
If this was 'part of a higher plan', they wouldn't have let such a 'permanent-looking' thing happen. It would look more like so many other Hollywood 'divorces'. You know how they go, Twihards...
"Oh, it's a mutual thing - we still love each other and respect each other - we're still each other's BEST FRIEND, etc."
THAT hasn't been happening...
We haven't been seeing Robert around, much - he definitely seems to have shifted tracks. Even when he's been promoting Dior and throwing his party, we haven't seen or heard nearly as much as we would from either one of those kinds of 'normal' celebrity parties. (Things have changed since this was originally written - Robert is definitely a hard target for them.)
It's almost like someone has seriously been working on tweaking AND resetting his leaky PR faucet. A party with very little TABLOID press was for Hollywood networking, and a very grown-up boost to Rob's career.
We've seen Kristen out 'laughing and smiling' with friends (and out her mom in a wig), which is not something she really does as we all know - several days, smiling happily with the paps in full view - no, that doesn't happen very often - and, this started happening supposedly within days of the break-up. (At least, that's what she was doing until they p*ssed her off and she started flipping them off, LoL!)
Kristen was trying to establish herself as separate 'and moving on' from Robert.
She's being a brave little toaster... But I bet she's feeling like crap with the death of James Gandolfini on top of everything. I bet she's really looking forward to getting back to work.
They are both obviously working on their own separate paths right now. They MAY have really split.
ALTERNATIVELY... I've seen some comments, and this is not an impossibility... That Kristen and Robert may still be together and 'staging' this situation, themselves.
I can see that possibility... They are going to be spending alot of time apart this year, and maybe they thought that if they made things look like they were separating - that might get the papz and/or us to give them a break. (It obviously isn't working if that's true.)
2nd alternately... They MAY ALSO have created this scenario because they really have decided that they both need a break for WHATEVER reason.
Kristen and Robert are people we Twihards should be treasuring - not judging so harshly.
THIS article turned out to be the SOURCE
article for MANY assaults since then
- even AFTER it was taken down.
It was TOO LATE. (Note the 'sex in
public' trash piece above.)
I even had one of these ladies ask me to remove a comment in here because of it. (Sorry, this 'last update' has been deleted to shorten this post. It was an excerpt toward the middle of this post - you'll see Buffy videos - that inspired these emails.)
You're AFRAID to hold Hollywood responsible for the tears and/or fury they've caused?
I honestly do not know what to say to that - except that it's really a shame that anyone has to feel that way. If this is all 'just a story', WHAT is the big deal? WHY should you have ANYONE to be afraid of?
Oh, I get it... I completely understand. I would be afraid if I had to live with any of these kinds of crazed TwiLadies, too. It really makes me wonder what some of these young girls have been put through at home.
If you want to skip this part just for the smear campaign info; scroll down about 2/3rds until you see this heading followed by a short list of links - you'll also see a much shorter version of this blurb one more time before you get there, sorry. ;)
Of course, I could be wrong - time will tell.
5/30/13 - I think it's safe to say that Kris & Rob are probably taking a break at the very least, and have maybe even called it quits on the romance. Rob & Kris seem to definitely be running on different paths - he's had a party without Kristen; and she (especially) seems to have gone out of her way to seem like she is separate from him, now.
Doesn't necessarily mean we won't be seeing them around together, ever again. And even if the romance is gone, they could probably still save their friendship and maybe even still be BFF's - even if they need more time to adjust to that.
I know this is true, because I've been BFF's with one of my ex's for well over a decade - I've talked about him a couple times in my blogs, my Star Trek: Into the Darkness Movie Review is one (he's a TOS fan who is not very fond of the new timeline and especially the new Spock, ha!). Here's his website - he's The Seattle Santa! (And he's really good at it, as you can tell by the pics, ha!)
Dan was a HORRIBLE boyfriend for me - although his current girlfriend/Mrs. Santa would no-doubt disagree about what kind of boyfriend he's been for her, ha! Yes, I'm semi-friends with her, too - and no, it's not very fun, sometimes. But, Dan will be a part of my life until I die, I'm sure of it.
He is THE PERSON I trust the most on this planet, and vise versa - it's a LIFETIME commitment even if there is no romance and/or no marriage involved. It's a generic BFF thing. ;)
I'm not saying this will happen with Kristen and Robert (I'm not even in contact with any of my other ex's) - just that it's possible to KEEP the most important, 'real' things about any relationship intact, even if other things get washed away - sort of depends on how important 'those other things' were for both of you. ;)
I've spoken to Santa/Dan, and alerted him that I've put him up here like this, ha! You know I've been driving him crazy, he's one of my vents. And while he has been as perplexed as some of you are with my reaction to all this because he's not a Twilight Fan; he DOES get "the heart of the matter".
He is willing and VERY capable of responding to any of your questions if you want to talk to him, too. (You would be surprised how many disturbing questions Santa gets asked by kids.) Use his santa email in the website above, and put 'from a Twilight Fan to Santa/Dan' (he goes by either one just as easily) in the subject.
And yeah, you're all still welcome to send me an email too, if you want:
What happened to Kristen & Robert?
What DIDN'T happen... There are so many suspicious people out there who are so sure Robert and Kristen's hot Hollywood romance has been a publicity stunt from the beginning. That makes NO SENSE - and IF the franchise managed to use them like this to LIE to the world so they would FOOL us all into loving Twilight even MORE...
Honestly, that's a much larger offense to me - and it should be to you, too.
IF this is true, WHY have neither one of them ever been very cooperative - aside from posing for ALL THOSE MAGAZINE COVERS together over the years? Kristen should have been welcoming the paps and prancing around Robert like a GOOD GIRL all this time.
No, these two professional actors just got caught up in the Cyclone that is Twilight, and have never been allowed to come back down to Earth - and now they've crash landed. Their lives as celebrities has been so unfair. You could never pay ANYONE enough money to go through the extreme sh*t they have had to, and STILL.
Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson's hot Hollywood romance WAS REAL - and if it wasn't, then Kristen & Robert have some answering to do for their fans.
I don't believe that, however... They have been in this wonky Hollybubble together for awhile, and were apparently friends before a romance started. It HAD to have been alot like being stranded on a deserted island with someone - it was almost inevitable that a romance would develop.
I'm not saying that it wasn't FATE or destiny or anything like that... But if you're forced to be in such close proximity with someone, in an intense situation like this for so long; you are GOING TO BOND with that other person. That other person could have started out as your worst enemy, and you would still bond, eventually.
The cheating scandal pics being captured and released like that in the most humiliating way (for both of them) - whether their relationship was previously perfect or not, could ALSO have been a catalyst for reuniting them after the shock.
Neither one of them was expecting this to happen (although Kristen may have had a bit of a warning). Not only were they both instantly heartbroken, but where else WOULD they go but back into each other's arms?
Honestly, *I* would have been surprised if Kristen & Robert had not reconciled - at least for awhile like they did. What comes next should NOT be Hollywood's GUESS!!
When close people are separated in a harsh, instant way like this - many times they are not ready to separate, so the separation can involve reconciling and parting ways a few times - who knows which will win out for them, the reconciling or the parting? It really COULD go either way.
I'm writing a book about all this, because I think it's a pretty important cultural stain that needs tending to - but mostly from the perspective of us older TwiLadies. If you're under the age of 30 when this book comes out, don't read it girls - it isn't for you. ;)
The book will be for those TwiLadies who are so far into their silly, sparkling 'escape' to be concerned at all about reality. Everything is all about THEM.
That's who the book will be about.
5/28/13 - Something weird happened lately. People Magazine reported a Robert Pattinson / Katy Perry sighting this weekend in Santa Barabara; INSINUATING that they were a couple and/or Katy Perry was a problem with Robert & Kristen's apparent recent split. Yesterday morning already - those links were starting to turn into 'bad page links' and eyebrows raised.
Btw, this turned out to be another 'source article' that was taken down TOO LATE - the gossip cycle had already begun and the damage couldn't be undone. Katy & Rob have been friends for awhile - and so has Kristen. Whether or not she may be 'more' his friend than Kristen's is beside the point. It IS POSSIBLE to have a platonic friendship anywhere - even in Hollywood.
They have done NOTHING but STALK her behind her back from her home, from her friend's home, everywhere she goes - she isn't posing for ANY of these photos, NOR is she aware that most of them are being taken until AFTER the fact.
Here's a scenario for you... Kristen is supposedly getting ready to go to work shooting her OWN movie, soon. I've also heard (although I have not confirmed it), that Kristen's house is up for sale.
IF THESE TWO THINGS ARE TRUE... Maybe Robert took the dogs and his belongings back to his place in preparation?
I'm not saying they haven't split, and if they're fighting - every couple fights.
Doesn't necessarily mean they've SPLIT.
If things haven't worked out the way you wanted them to - that's life, and it goes on. Be nice to each other and support each other, Twihards - you NEED each other right now, as silly as that may seem to people.
Your FEELINGS ARE REAL even if your obsession is not - take care of them, or they'll turn into ugly things. Robert has more movies coming out soon, so you have that to look forward to - and I think Kristen has some coming out, too. This is NOT the end of their lives, they're still TODDLERS just like alot of you are.
Yes - you're all still welcome to send me a private email if you need someone to vent at/talk to - Catherine: firstname.lastname@example.org
If you are someone who is STILL struggling with a stubborn Twilight Addiction and looking for HELP - CLICK HERE.
And also, ONCE AGAIN since they've built this story up AGAIN - the NEXT image of them together is worth alot more for these gossip rags and paps because some Twihards would do damn near do ANYTHING to see it now that they've put these doubts in your head again.
SHUN these damn gossip magazines and SIGN the PETITIONS for Hollywood to start taking responsibility for the chaos they cause!
Additionally, this one is harder... Get that next 'Robsten together' image, TwiFANS - don't let the paps get it. We got the last image they built up like this. When WE capture the images, it vents the air out of their big balloons and keeps them from getting paid nearly as much!!
Here's a splash from the most recent Robsten rumors from 5/16 coming out of Hollywood:
Yes, this IS a REAL WARNING!!
What did you think of this paparazzi shot
ROBSTEN STILL TOGETHER at THE END of their ROUND 2 PR ASSAULT
I know, it's never the end... Cuz now the debate is
'how real is this' AGAIN!!
The BEST thing about this photo is that it was not
captured by the Paparazzi - FANS got this pic
(although the gossip mags are utilizing it, ha!!)
We intercepted the tabloids' BUILDUP of this image
and kept the paps from making NEARLY as much
money off Robsten's NEXT 'together' pic, now. ;)
Notice that neither Kris nor Rob seem to have
many issues with posing for photos with fans.
One more thing... I've read in places, complaints
about Robert & Kristen 'not acting cozy enough'
during fan photos. They seldom pose side-by-side,
for instance. The focus is SUPPOSED to be on
'the fan' - that is a CLASSIC PR guideline.
They are not doing anything unusual NOR
are they being difficult - just courteous. ;)
SIGN the PETITIONS
to set these two professional actors
and ALL Celebrities FREE
by asking Hollywood to
Because of Nunya's point about Kristen's public apology being made to 'People Magazine' through 'a source', I was inspired to do a little more research - because the very first time I read about this subject was through this CBS News link. CBS is NOT PM - so I trusted their reporting, completely missing the 'odd' fact that Kristen issued a statement to PEOPLE to begin with...
WHY would either her OR Rupert go through PEOPLE magazine to release an 'official statement'? Why not send out a generic press release for all media in general or contact a more reputable news source that HASN'T BEEN such a paparazzi safe-haven and general Celebrity irritant to ANY situation?
People Magazine has been NOTHING but jerks throughout this entire situation as have so many other tabloids... MAYBE they DID inadvertently CAUSE these 'more reputable' news houses to BELIEVE the little lie they MIGHT have made up to go along with those cheating photos so that they could get in on the suddenly-lucrative Hollywood buzz, too.
FLIP SIDE (I know this is what alot of you don't like about me, sorry. ;)
I would THINK (although I could be wrong) that places like CBS News would have CONFIRMED this news before they reported it; AND if it was written by someone other than Kristen Stewart, they did an awfully GOOD JOB of making those written words 'sound like' something she might actually say in this kind of a situation.
ALSO, that tweet from the People employee above about Kristen's apology being from 'a source' - that source COULD have been someone from Kristen's camp, like a publicist.
We just don't know, and it is highly unlikely that any of us will EVER know the truth about any of this, for sure - and it DOESN'T MATTER anymore!! But other things DO MATTER now...
The Justice for Kristen blog has played RIGHT into the 'storylines' of these gossip rags with a FUN, unintended TWILIGHT TWIST - what a shocker, overly-obsessed Twihards coming up with a fake-photo conspiracy theory like this - TOO FUNNY!!
It would be funnier if the photographers manipulated them on purpose just to instigate this story, themselves. I mean, the FIRST THING the Twilight Fanbase's MOST OBSESSED Twihards are going to do is go over those photos with a fine-tooth comb to make sure they have not been tampered with - LoL!
A 'just cheating scandal' may not have been enough for them. They may very well have intentionally created this plot variable knowing/hoping this about Twilight Fans - they are supposedly 'professionals'. (That really would be funny. Dammit, I would have to give a crumb-of-a-kudo to the paps if they did that!)
You really should STOP - you're helping NO ONE!!
This PR crap has gone on for too long... Either Kristen and/or Robert have the integrity of a GNAT to pull this on their own fanbase for the EXTREMELY profitable benefit of the paps (peeps they HATE) for some weird reason; OR those cheating pics - manipulated or not - represented the generic 'jist of the TRUTH' about the scandalous situation even if they don't capture the FACTS perfectly.
It should also be noted that *I* am somewhat confused about where the "Justice for Kristen" blog stands, now - I've been told in email exchange that opinions have been altered. But, based on their current end-article comments out in Internetland, I see them as continuing their original message of 'Kristen didn't cheat, she did this on purpose' - which, to me, seems to have been MORE HARMFUL on Twilight Fans with as much FURTHER DIVISION and ridiculous arguments it has CAUSED - than these gossip rags.
It also concerns me that they always FILTER my comments on their blog (with one exception) instead of replying to them or allowing people to judge them for themselves. In my opinion, this subject NEEDS a DEBATE. Whether it's on this blog or that one, it doesn't matter!
But, apparently - THEY don't want to work with ME because *I* HATE the way Stephenie Meyer irresponsibly wrote The Twilight Saga AND I blame a large chunk of this Hollywood mess on HER.
SO... If THAT is YOUR REASON for NOT SIGNING *my* petition; then by all means, go sign THEIRS. I'm really mad at Sue & Twilighter at the moment for taking my message to their site INSTEAD of working together. *My* problem with their petition (aside from the pot-stirring-in-a-BAD-way reason for their blog existing) is the long list of gossip rags they have listed as targets.
This needs to be an INDUSTRY-WIDE reform at the ROOTS of these kinds of rags. *My* petition targets the companies that own the magazines they have listed.
I received this [edited] response to some of my questions regarding their blog on Feb 5th from Sue: "The Grand Punk is put out by Twilighter. He is a retired prosecutor and that is why he is so meticulous with his analysis. He is up to Part 11 and has at least two more installments. When you get through all 11 parts, you will realize that his opinion has changed somewhat as it has progressed, but I believe he still stands by the belief that it was staged and probably by the people that had something to gain."
The last email I exchanged with her is on Feb. 24th - and the first signature on their petition is dated Feb. 19th. BEFORE that, they were having fans writing letters specifically about Kristen Stewart. But I made a comment to her about how that wasn't a very 'convenient' thing for fans to do - one signature on a petition would be easier for fans (because I was trying to convince them to join forces on MY petition).
Yeah, really looks suspicious, JUSTICE for KRISTEN - and sh*tty of you!!
How incredibly paranoid and short-sighted of 'Justice for Kristen'. It is for THIS REASON that my book, "Stephenie Meyer and Her Army of Desperate Housewives: The Twilight Saga Exposed" is almost definitely coming out now. Yeah, they've played a pretty damn big hand in that.
The Justice for Kristen blog is giving the paps, gossip rags, and even Kristen WAY too much outlandish credit. What these gossip magazines do is something they do every day in the easiest, money-making way they can - that's their JOBS.
And EVEN IF Kristen and Robert DID THIS, it's obviously what they want us all to BELIEVE for some strange reason, ha! IF they did it to get back at the paps - isn't that reason enough to SIGN the PETITIONS (ones that might actually WORK, that is?)
By joining forces with other unhappy fans of other mistreated Celebrities - the idea is that we will continue to build on the petitions until we have enough to make our frustrations LOUD enough to be heard AND taken seriously.
CHANGE IN HOLLYWOOD IS POSSIBLE with time and voices being added daily!!
Whining about 'Kristen being picked on' with their 'PLAN' (their plan used to be centered on Kristen Stewart and involved fans writing letters, etc - maybe it still does, dunno & don't care) is ludicrous - and draws the wrong kind of UNWANTED ATTENTION to her!!
Kristen isn't 'targeted' by the paparazzi anymore than any other Celebrity as far as rumors and lies and sneaky picture-taking tactics go. It's just that she's a profitable TARGET and (in their view) she DESERVES it for NOT respecting their intrusive place in her famous lifestyle.
NO, NOT COOL AT ALL - we're gonna talk about that, because these gossip magazines do NOT have the right to LIE to fans JUST so they can make money by jerking the still-very-profitable and TENDER hearts of YOUNG Twihards around JUST so they can CONTINUE to 'teach Kristen a lesson'.
If you won't consider EVERY possibility beyond "what you believe to be true"; you MAY very well be HURTING this situation - like, insisting that Kristen is innocent no matter what.
WHAT IF the original cheating scandal WAS true? How do you think it makes Kristen feel, if you're all so sure she would never do something like this?
HOW MANY MORE Twilight Fans will Kristen LOSE if she REALLY made this mistake?
You may very well be putting her up on a pedestal that doesn't suit her, isn't working to her benefit, and has the potential to make her feel even WORSE about what 'actually may have happened'.
I've heard so MANY emails and comments both directed at me and otherwise, about how "I just can't/won't believe those cheating pics were real! Kristen KNOWS she is always followed by the paparazzi. She did this intentionally - for whatever reason" ...to get back at the paparazzi because they hate them, or to play a PR game with their fans at the end of Breaking Dawn, etc.
How many times have you heard either one of them make the comment in interviews about being irritated by people "Twittering" their location and THEN they get hounded. Obviously, they move around (or at least, they used to) at times without the paps knowing about it.
As such, it would not be unreasonable to assume that Kristen was expecting to have her privacy when those cheating photos were captured - she took a RISK and it didn't work out. PLUS, both Kristen and Robert have commented on this subject several times during the past several months - as have many of their friends, peers and even family members.
PLUS, she's taken NOTHING but a POUNDING from these gossip rags (AND TWILIGHT FANS), since!! WHY WOULD SHE VOLUNTEER FOR THIS KIND OF TORMENT?! It's not like they (or ANY of us) couldn't guess what would happen out here with her fans - HUH, HOLLYWOOD?!!
Yes, Hollywood knew EXACTLY what they were doing AND what was going to happen out here with Twilight Fans when they published those cheating photos!!
WHETHER you believe those cheating photos were manipulated OR NOT...
All of this was just a MEAN, senseless PR assault directed at Twilight Fans EN MASSE that was meant to jerk their OBVIOUS. emotionally-INVESTED and obsessing Twihard HEARTS and MINDS around for Hollywood PROFITS!!
But, SEE what an effective DIVERSION these 'fake photo' theories have been... NO ONE is looking at what the gossip rags are ACTUALLY DOING, we're all trying to figure out where the rabbit went, STILL.
The outlandish story is SELDOM the one that turns out to be true - it's almost always the logical line. ANY law-enforcement official will tell you that.
For the record... It occurs to me that I should separate my own personal opinions about this subject from this long-winded blog post that tries to cover just about every silly thing I've heard:
If the most recent comment below indicates anything - and it hasn't been the first time I've heard this - not all of us who believe those photos 'capture the moment' believe that Kristen necessarily meant to be cheating on Robert. I know - yet more controversy, ha!
This post tries to cover ALL the many outlandish 'Robsten' cheating scandal / breakup rumors and theories out there. My own personal opinions can be seen moreso speckled in the original timeline (see link at end) and in my comment response:
"I'm with you on the whole 'Kristen doesn't look like she wanted him near her' thing. It has always seemed to me like she was 'trying to keep things outside' - haven't some of us been there, ha?! And yeah, it would also explain alot toward how/why they got back together so fast. (It could also be the reason why Kristen doesn't seem to 'have enough humility' about this situation as so many of you think she should have - WHY would she feel ANY responsibility for what the PAPS did to YOU? She didn't create this PR storm, and she certainly did NOT ramp it UP like it has been!!)
As far as letting the paps take pics, I think Kristen & Robert do when they're tired and don't feel like holding up appearances - but that doesn't happen very often. They've been so beat up by these paps & gossip magazines over the course of all these TwiYears, and the paps have done nothing but bash them down at every opportunity.
Honestly, I wouldn't give them anymore than I 'had' to at this point, either. Not only that, I'd probably be thinking about getting everything I could get out of Hollywood while I was still young - then take my sweety and retire as early as possible in some distant place far from the cruelty of Hollywood and my well-meaning-yet-just-don't-get-it fans to raise my family in peace."
Continuing... ALSO, since these 'fake photo' theories (there are many of them, ha!) are based on the fact that Robert and Kristen appeared to be in a solid, loving relationship JUST PRIOR to those cheating photos surfacing in July along with a couple comments Kristen has made over the years...
This kind of Hollywood lie is TOO BIG to force. The consequences of being called out and SUED would have made the 'tampered with' scandal not even worth ATTEMPTING - and doesn't it seem awfully WEIRD that NO ONE CARES that those photos may have been tampered with? That's probably because it's NOT UNUSUAL for the gossip mags to DO THAT!!
Plus, there are so many OTHER far more EASIER ways to gain publicity in Hollywood - gaining publicity for Kristen OR Robert is EASY!! All they have to do is step outside of their home TOGETHER and go somewhere OR walk up a RED CARPET event TOGETHER (something they NEVER DO, btw).
The ONLY way Kristen and/or Robert would have 'been in on' this kind of scandal AT THEIR EXPENSE is IF giving the paparazzi this kind of fodder to make money off of them had been WORTH it for them somehow.
Who made money off of this scandal? NOT Kris OR Rob (they DID NOT need to 'pull a stunt' OR reunite in order for BDp2 or for ANY of their other movies to be a success)!! And the 1st scandal did NOTHING for them aside from being a MAJOR thorn in BOTH of their sides for MONTHS - they can't go ANYWHERE!!
NEITHER ONE of them needed THIS KIND of publicity; NOR have either one of them EVER been interested in ASSISTING the paparazzi in their money-making endeavors. WHY WOULD THEY?
HOW does them 'putting on this show' for the paps in order to TRICK THEM - do them ANY GOOD at ALL?!! WHAT WOULD BE THEIR MOTIVE behind it - just because they HATE them, how does it 'get back at them'?!!
Between Actual Celebrity News and a PR Celebrity/Fan Assault
Another post I did on Celebrity/Fan harassment in general that includes the petitions - Yeah, there are more peeps than just me wanting this Hollywood BS to change. It's a worthy injustice that needs changing from many perspectives.
If you want to skip this stuff, scroll down
about two-thirds until you see this heading
followed by a short list of links. ;)
Of course, I could be wrong - time will tell."
It's time to UNITE so we can HELP Kris & Rob!!
WHY haven't we seen either one of them around for the past couple of weeks? Probably because they are BOTH in hiding again (as much as possible for Robert since he's working) because of OUR reactions (thanks for pointing out how wonky we are, Emma Watson) to this second and just-as-STUPID PR ASSAULT.
He had more than ONE thing to get past - remember that public apology? ;)
|Believe it or not... REAL MEN also|
FORGIVE people they love when they
get burned at being a silly,
REALLY - Stranger things have happened. ;)
(Petitions are here - Yeah, there are more peeps than just me wanting this Hollywood BS to change. It's a worthy injustice that needs changing from many perspectives.)
People who are obsessed with Twilight not ONLY come from across a broad range of ages, cultures and walks of life - BUT, since The Twilight Saga started getting popular in 2005, AND peeps have been falling in love with it EVERY year since for 7ish years as they "come of age" and/or become introduced to it by friends...
happen to be at the very END; and you've all been recently, INVOLUNTARILY and rudely knocked out of YOUR obsessions - within your varying phases - by Hollywood's well-protected Industry of Celebrity Mistreatment.
Yeah... Some of us HURT far MORE than OTHER'S for this VERY REASON.
WOOT - Now Kristen Stewart has CAUSED the DIVORCE of Rupert Sanders and Liberty Ross... Those POOR kids, all because of Kristen & Rupert's selfish indiscretion... The gossip rags are going to have a HAYDAY with this...
Aside from these maddening gossip machines being incredible *ssholes throughout this entire mess; if Rupert and Liberty ARE getting a divorce, this publicity scandal did NOT CAUSE it!! While it surely didn't help anything, there had to have been MORE going on in that relationship for something like this to end it after all this time.
This is NOT Kristen's FAULT, Twihards. Just a reminder, there were TWO peeps - that includes Rupert - in this scandal. Relationships are COMPLICATED. I'm willing to bet he has more than one major fault, and maybe Liberty even has a couple herself that they just can't get past.
For those of you who are MAD at Liberty for seeming to do a pretty good job of taking advantage of this situation since the BEGINNING of it... Honestly, *I'm* giving her a break for utilizing her Celebrity contacts and resources during a time that she probably ALREADY KNEW she wasn't going to be continuing with this failed marriage.
She's a woman who probably (although I haven't done alot of research on Rupert, this is what it sounds like) had went through this with him a couple of times. While she probably wasn't that thrilled with Kristen, Rupert's actions had to have been a HUGE disappointment for her; AND she's getting ready to be a single mom who is PERFECTLY CAPABLE of forging her own new life.
She's a woman just trying to survive in this harsh world like the rest of us - with two children. WHO AMONG US wouldn't have USED every opportunity to boost our own now-NEEDED career?!!
Please remember... There are four HUMANS involved in this mess and NOT ONE of them is perfect (including Robert). EVEN IF (I know this is what some of you are hung up on) Kristen went "all the way" with Rupert, she is STILL FORGIVABLE - both from her FANS perspectives and from Robert's!!
As someone who has actually and unintentionally (really, suddenly sometimes you're "just there", ha!) BEEN tangled up in that "young girl messing around with an older, married guy" situation a time or two back in the day (but never got caught, ha!)...
...AND as someone who has forgiven a cheating partner who went "all the way" on more than one occasion (THREE separate relationships through the decades - only one got jettisoned eventually for continuing); BUT has never cheated on anyone herself (but haven't we ALL been tempted!)...
I can tell you for CERTAIN that KRISTEN IS forgivable and it would NOT be unusual for Robert to have done just that!!
It was something else that eventually ended my other two relationships; and the months immediately AFTER the "make-up" were always GOOD - in fact, VERY good, because you really do "re-realize" what you mean to each other and things sort of become refreshed between you. (I've never been in a situation where I have "had" to stay with someone, like alot of other people feel they have to.)
BECAUSE LOVE is about SO MUCH MORE than just "not cheating" on someone!!
MANY of you out there are having a HARD time grasping, "how/why" Kristen could DO something like this to Robert and it's STILL driving you CRAZY... Here's my response to a recent email earlier this month:
"...I can think of a few reasons, but the main one that comes to mind is just being young and scared. They were done with Twilight and both of their careers probably seemed to be a little up-in-the-air and uncertain. PLUS, what about the fear of being uncertain yourself about whether or not your relationship will last past Breaking Dawn? Not to mention all the PRESSURE...
It's not like Kristen is actually BELLA and already has a perfect happy ending already written out for her.
Rupert was "just an escape" for Kristen - much like Twilight is for US, except he was a real person she "escaped" to instead of inside a silly fairytale for awhile. SHE wasn't serious about HIM, nor was he with her!
She was just being a silly, indestructible-feeling, adventurous young girl who got caught playing with matches and got burned...
I really like how Velma worded the end of her comment, above: "I hope that Kristen will be careful to honor and protect her heart always".
This is something we ALL have to do, and Kristen learned that lesson the loooooong HARD way - hopefully many of you will simply remember this too, and not have to go through what she has. Going through this in PRIVATE is pretty unfun and hard too, ha!
I think if this situation did anything good, it helped Robert and Kristen re-evaluate and re-establish "what they mean" to each other. It looks to me like their bond has deepened.
Of course, I could be wrong - time will tell."
HOLLYWOOD'S SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST TWILIGHT FANS, KRISTEN STEWART and ROBERT PATTINSON.
Kristen is in this for the LONG RUN!! 2/8/13
Robsten is still unbroken!! 1/25/13
Split Completely Untrue! 1/18/13
Robert Pattinson & Kristen Stewart... still together!!
This "exclusive" from NOW Magazine (that is trying to promote it's latest issue coming out) about Robsten breaking up is NOT true.
"Turning up to the Golden Globes alone, Rob proved that he was firmly single – they haven’t been spotted together since they spent New Years Eve together on the Isle of Wight."
- YES, THEY HAVE!!
And this is Kristen carrying Rob's jacket through the airport on 1/13/13 - OBVIOUSLY she was meeting up with him.
This "breakup" stuff is simply believable because these rags built up "not spending Christmas together" and "Robert walking the RC at the Golden Globes without Kristen"; and now they are USING that to whip us up again so they can milk this current PR assault for every penny they can get out of it.
Where have you EVER seen Robert and Kristen on the Red Carpet together unless they were working for Summit on Twilight - and, didn't they do the "separate Xmas" thing TWO YEARS IN A ROW BEFORE THIS?!!
NORMAL, normal, normal for these two...
And it's also NORMAL for the tabloids to build up the question of whether or not they will attend an event together prior to ANY celebrity event EITHER one of them attends - especially if they are scheduled to appear at the same time.
Do you EVER see them walk the RC together - even then?!!
Insiders told Heat that Rob’s solo jaunt down the red carpet in Los Angeles was a bold statement from him: “In Rob’s eyes, it’s over..."
When the REALITY is... We did not EVEN see them walk the Red Carpet together last year at Cannes when they both had separate movies to promote. While they both attended each other's events AND walked the RC, they didn't walk up TOGETHER - And THIS was the place the paps captured the infamous Robsten Cannes KISS!! ;)
I've heard SO MANY of you out there going on and on and ON about "how this just HAS to be a publicity stunt" they are putting on... LOOK how it helped the movie Cosmopolis and Robert's career since then...
A) While I can't even BEGIN to speak for Mr. Pattinson, I seriously DOUBT this would have been his promotion of choice, especially because...
B) IF they DID want to add some MAJOR SPARKAGE to their publicity campaigns AND utilize each other's fame tails while the paps (scumbags they HATE) captured pictures to make money off of them (they've made PLENTY off of these two breakup scandals!); all they would have had to do is WALK DOWN THESE RED CARPETS TOGETHER while they were at CANNES!!
(Note: the paps would have made LESS MONEY off THOSE pics because all the paps present would have been in competition over them. Kris & Rob would probably have preferred that to the alternative universe this Hollywood hooplah has created, ha!)
They are ALL OVER THE PLACE - but SELDOM together.
That photo at the top was probably the best one they got!!
They left TOGETHER.and seemed to be in a HAPPY place when they did (although you have to "read between the lines" in this article to "get" that).
Here is another one that confirms some PDA at SoHo House after the Golden Globes. And again, you have to IGNORE the author of this article's obvious intention to SWAY us.
NOTICE how they twist this stuff...WHY do they continue to DO THIS? They have a couple of really GOOD, manipulative reasons... Keep reading through the next update and I'll explain it. :)
|3/21/13 - Here's that FIRST PIC!!|
*I* could not be more PLEASED
that a FAN got this pic before
the paps, LoL!!!
And the REALLY MADDENING thing IS... Now that they have built this stupid story UP like this again, it's like a competition...
Whatever lucky paparazzi gets the next image of Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart TOGETHER - the one they WILL GET after he gets back from shooting Rover and/or before if Kristen visits him in Australia - makes another pile of money AND the gossip rags get to twist our perception of it around and around and around while they milk it for even more money...
Original Post Beginning: 1/17/13
Okay, so some of this stuff is getting old AND I'm sure
SOME resources that are discovering themselves
on this blog - along with their revealing actions -
are being removed, at times. (The original source
of this video was a gossip site, I'm almost positive.)
Isn't it WEIRD, in fact - that this blog has
been well traveled for at least A YEAR;
but this story has YET to BREAK?!!
It has literally been stonewalled from EVERY
angle - I can barely advertise it. It get's
rejected for 'libelous content'.
SILENCE SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS,
especially when stuff like this keeps
disappearing - like VOTES on the poll
at the bottom. ;)
Here's the same video from another YouTuber.
We fans have got this covered, thank you very much,
you Hollywood JERKS.
WHY HAVE HOLLYWOOD'S GOSSIP MAGAZINES & PAPARAZZI ALWAYS BEEN SO DAMN MEAN TO KRISTEN, ROBERT AND THEIR TWIHARD FANS?!!
Here's that quote again from the NOW Magazine at the beginning of this... "Turning up to the Golden Globes alone, Rob proved that he was firmly single..."
One ahead of the other (as opposed to side by side), hat/hood ON, head down (don't smile OR make eye contact), those glasses ON (haven't those clear 'designer' glasses come out since the 1st PR scandal? I could be wrong about that, ha!), wearing the same plain 'paparazzi money-dumbing-down' t-shirts over and over, hands in pockets - let's GO and NOT give them one decent red cent when we do!! ;)
Yeah, the paparazzi still take their pictures AND talk about "how they never hold hands; Kristen doesn't love Robert, she's OBVIOUSLY a cold biotch"... But they don't make NEARLY as much money off of the pictures they capture as they otherwise could IF they would JUST be MORE cooperative.
IMAGINE Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart strolling hand in hand through the airport smiling happily! How much do you suppose a pic of them like THAT would be worth?!
The paparazzi DO NOT LIKE Kristen Stewart - they forgive Robert a little more 'cuz Kristen is "the girl". SHE must have him pussywhipped - he can't possibly be thinking from his BRAIN at ALL after all this time... He's too SWEET, isn't he? He's ONLY still with Kristen because he has a soft heart and she made him feel sorry for her, right?!!
Even more... Is the incredibly disrespectful way they treat Kristen's MANY FANS of ALL AGES, most of whom are YOUNG GIRLS!!
And they do NOTHING but CONTINUE to TREAT her AND us like SHIT!! (Has anybody even noticed that?)
Do you NOT SEE how they are MAKING FUN of us Twihards at the SAME TIME they are harassing Kristen... Laughing at how "crazy" we Twihards are... WATCH those hysterically FUNNY young Twilight Fans CRY... Listen to those desperate housewives carry on and on about what an UNFORGIVABLE slut she is...
KRISTEN won't pose like a little princess for the papsmears "just to get them off her back" like alot of other celebrities do... So many of you out there ARE and have been SO MAD at her - just for that!!
|Kristen Stewart's First Public Appearance|
After the 1st Round Cheating Scandal at TIFF, 2012
NO, it REALLY REALLY is NOT part of their JOBS to contribute to the WEALTH of swarming FLIES and NASTY gossip article "writers" AND "professional" interviewers/reporters who ABUSE them.
THESE jerks have done NOTHING but be MEAN to them since the BEGINNING of Twilight BECAUSE of all the HOOPLA surrounding YOUR obsessive opinions on things like:
Whether Robert Pattinson is or is not the right actor for the character of Edward Cullen. Whether Kristen Stewart is or is not the right actress for the part of Bella Swan.
AND THEN... Whether or not they should actually be together in REAL LIFE.
They TAKE ADVANTAGE of your WEAKNESSES, TwiFangirls, and they have been doing an OUTSTANDING job of jerking your Twilight hearts AND Kristen AND Robert all over the place... Causing ruckus after ruckus among us fans, PITTING us against each other.
I'm willing to bet that there are even more underlying reasons why they are BOTH so stubborn about going out of their way to not allow many 'good pics' of them together to happen, or even just 'alone' - very SELDOM do you ever see either ONE of them out in public NOT 'dressed down', wearing glasses with an expressionless look on their faces.
- because they also probably resent the Twilight Fanbase's most intense, judgmental 'diehards'.
They BOTH get bashed for never smiling, anymore... I'm sure as soon as they know someone is pointing a camera at them, and maybe even when they don't - maybe it's sort of become a mask that they put on JUST when they leave the house because they NEVER KNOW when someone is pointing a camera at them...
Kristen & Robert both have their extreme haters AND people who 'overly-love' them among their very passionate - and many times, divided - fanbase. I can't imagine that either type of extreme fan is a very comforting thought for their Human heads; and I can't imagine that they would want to give those people anymore than they already give them through the movies.
That's what they get paid for, and that's ALL they get paid for.
On the other hand, they also know that they have MANY 'real' fans out here in the world who are really BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE - so they say little, and what little they do say gets twisted, judged and marked by these gossip rags as them being' ungrateful' for their Twilight success.
|Very First Photos of Kristen Stewart|
Resurfacing After the 1st Round Cheating Scandal
- Arriving at the airport for TIFF, Sept 2012
So MANY MANY of you TwiFans out there have gone on and ON about how HORRIBLE it was for Kristen to have dressed like this - the NERVE of her!! In Robert's T-Shirt, apparently wearing jewelry he gave her, etc...
GOOD GRAVY... How scary and HARD do you suppose it was for Kristen to step back out here into the world and face us all?
I know *I* sure as hell wouldn't have wanted to do it - and frankly, I was afraid for her... Who knew what was going to happen? (THANKS to all the Canadian Twihards who graciously supported Kristen during this first jaunt back down the RC!!)
Know what *I* think?
And I mean, REALLY... Would YOU want to be the one prancing around and posing with your boyfriend just because all the girls who are OBSESSED with him think you should be GRATEFUL for their over-fascinations with him?
Kristen treats the paps with the same disrespect they treat her - so they HATE HER and ANY wedge they can THINK UP, much less actually FIND (like those photos) to RAM between her and her FANS - they use at every opportunity.
Both Kristen and Robert have said PLENTY regarding this issue (read through the original timeline at the bottom, I've got lots of quotes in there) - and NO ONE BELIEVES THEM!!
Kristen has even asked for their privacy since they've gotten back together - and Rob has said, "if I talk about it, then it isn't personal anymore".
But that story is BORING and it doesn't accomplish their goals to poke at ALL of us... The people who are writing this stuff don't CARE about anyone, they are just USING the names "Kristen Stewart" and "Robert Pattinson" because WE still WANT to hear about them, of COURSE.
HOLLYWOOD... We're SICK of watching ALL of our favorite celebrities being hounded, their kids crying, trying to hide, chasing after their cars and CAUSING ACCIDENTS (trust me, you HURT one hair on either ONE of these two kids and you'll see the INVISIBLE TWIHARD ARMY that I keep talking at COME to LIFE! Those of us who went through Princess Diana's SENSELESS death don't need a reminder!!)
This is Kristen and Robert returning to LAX a few months ago. LISTEN to what they are taunting them with!! Kristen is no-doubt going to be paying for this mistake for a LONG DAMN TIME - too long, in my opinion. And really, what is Robert paying for??
DESPITE your opinion of Kristen and this maddening situation... If you EVER LOVED TWILIGHT... Let's take care of our beloved actors AND each other!
This is a List of Gossip Magazines
we were originally boycotting at the beginning
of the original Robsten PR cheating scandal.
(They all still apply, ha!)
It may be impossible for you not to cry at the end of this video. ;)
YouTube Video Link to Kate Moss
trying to get through the airport with her little girl