Apologies, this is another post that has been moved
to another blog in order to eliminate duplicate content.
Original comments are intact below.
History of The Twilight Saga starting with fanfiction reality, Fifty Shades of Grey. Twilight’s infamous over-obsessions due to RARE professionally-negligent publishing has always been blamed on fans – unless we write out what Twilight was really about for more money. Grown women are guilty of using & bullying young girls - while condoning & reinforcing worldwide misogyny. Woops! Stephenie Meyer owes her diehard fans, anti-fans and the world an apology.
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If you came in from an outside link, scroll down past the link table (so sorry!) to read that specific post. Also, scroll down when you click on blog links in here – many of these top links are elsewhere with no introduction.
This isn’t your typical ‘anti-twilight’ blog… This is yet another email (complete with semi-subtle death threat) from someone asking questions about it that some of you may be asking, yourself. Don’t assume that you know what this blog is about simply because you’ve argued on Stephenie Meyer’s behalf before.
This is the very first post on this blog, from my ‘clueless movie fan’ perspective. It was written on Thanksgiving Day, 2011 – then published in here a few days later, after I could reread it and do some editing. It is hysterically funny and incredibly poignant at the same time – for those of you who can’t see Stephenie Meyer’s amateur sexual fantasy floating around in The Twilight Saga. This post is what those of us who ARE familiar with vampires experienced because of Breaking Dawn’s unbelievable ending; and it may help explain for you why this blog exists. It is where absolutely everything started; and demonstrates my intentions for this blog from the beginning. Believe it or not, they were NOT MEAN.
At first, I didn’t know why things were wrong; I only knew that they were – so I was making excuses for Stephenie Meyer in the beginning, LoL! Really… every single estranged TwiFan that she has, USED to be at least a real semi-fan of hers.
Please be patient. I know that most people who are familiar with this controversy have passionate opinions; but what about the rest of you who are completely clueless? I wrote this so that readers would not have to jump off the page, as much. I recommend reading through once; then going back to read links for more details, later. If you get too angry to keep reading, pause and scroll down to the side link collection. I used to be a clueless person in the world, and then a clueless Twilight Movie Fan for a while, too. You’ll see more about me, below. And please forgive the caps, in places. I don’t see them as shouting as some peeps do. They are simply meant to make those words stand out, and that is all…
This blog is all about the accidental and painful over-obsessions of The Twilight Fanbases
that has CONTINUED with a decade of worldwide bullying and intentional,
emotionally-harsh attacks on the hearts & minds of little TwiFangirls (and big ones).
The feelings of obsessed fans are real even if
their obsessions are not - until they drift away.
You all KNOW THIS.
Suicide is the 2nd leading cause of death for 15 - 24 year olds in the US.
These are all REAL issues, to name a few - for MILLIONS of people:
Maladaptive Daydreaming
Dissociative Disorder
This one is the worst biggie, and starting
to be considered an EPIDEMIC
Why are the obsessions of young girls important?
Because their feelings are real even if the obsessions are not – until they drift away. Young girls NEED their fairytale ‘escapes’ MUCH MORE than older ones do because they have limited ways to cope with life’s crap (read the comments beneath these neverending, misogynistic tabloid assaults – this one is from January 2016). If you’ve never been forced to endure public high school in the US (or anywhere, probably); or been abused as a child (unfortunately, still a common occurrence) - then of course you can’t possibly relate.
How Did this Blog Change to
Tabloid & Paparazzi Reform
- Yeah, I have some really good reasons beyond
Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson and their Fans
(Although I’m pretty sure they are enough reason at this point.)
Why Do People Hate Bella Swan and Kristen Stewart?
Believe it or not, this is a very easy question to answer;
and NO it isn’t because she ‘cheated’.
TwiNewsflash: The concerning over-obsessions of young women was the ONLY REASON that Breaking Dawn was forgiven when it was published in 2008. The ONLY people who have defended this story for being written ‘just like it is’ because ‘Stephenie Meyer is a literary genius’ are her YOUNG (and young-at-heart) fans who were used by both the amateur author and her publisher because ‘they weren’t supposed to know any better’ about vampires.
And, these are the fans who get hit & hurt the most by world bullying. It is really crappy of SM and you older ladies to continue letting them believe what they believe about these books - while they ignorantly & arrogantly (in their over-obsessions) deal with all the hate surrounding Twilight that still exists in big, dynamic ways.
Email Excerpt: “Thank you for writing that wonderful blog.. it was heaven sent.. …Please someone tell him (this is ‘why the cheating scandal started’, Aug 2012). He just texted me and said he told my mom.. and for me to get some help.. and bye.. please tell him… Everyone is doing this and it’s killing me.. but everyone acts like they don’t know what I’m talking about.. I don’t think I’ve ever needed anything so bad in all my life than for someone to tell him.. I know they are trying to drive me crazy.. and it’s starting to work.. thanks again, was truly a blessing I needed to read very much so.”
Another email excerpt that I hear all the time from all types of fans:
“…I have tried speaking to my good friend about my obsession and, as with all of my friends,
doesn't like Twilight and totally judged me lol so your feedback means a lot.”
How to Soothe an Intense Twilight / Robsessed / Krisbian / Robsten Obsession
Anti-Twilight Fans could SEE what Stephenie Meyer didn’t MEAN to write;
and Erika didn’t MEAN to write her books ignorantly, either.
Adult women have 50 Shades of obsessive fog to get past before
they can possibly begin to think clearly about this subject.
Why does The Twilight Saga have so many anti-fans? Why are there hardly any male fans? How did Twilight’s infamous obsessions become over-obsessions? Why are so many older women more obsessed than younger ones? Why did the fandom fracture into several various fanbases that fight among themselves? How did we get 50 Shades of Grey out of all this commotion?
I recorded four wildly-ranting videos (this one is my favorite – calling SM out, ha!) over three years ago at the height of my own very unwanted Twilight over-obsession (It’s not like you can unwatch or unread something – or reclaim wasted time). At that point, I was really mad about ‘how I was obsessed’ with this pretty fairytale; and I was mad that Stephenie Meyer had ‘accidentally’ done this to so many other people before me - and didn’t correct any of the dysfunction in her books before she made them into movies.
I actually say this in the second video before I had even heard of 50 Shades of Grey... “It sounds to me like Stephenie has some sort of BDSM fetish, but I don’t even sort of want to think about that right now.” (Video #12 is where you will hear me say this.)
And yet, somehow 50 Shades of Grey (this post is what exactly is wrong with fifty shades) exists as Twilight Fanfiction; and is yet another dysfunctional worldwide ‘phenomenon’?! Do you have any idea how disturbing that is? Not only does it make my skin crawl – it’s just wrong.
There are real amateur literary reasons why Twilight messed with so many people’s heads – especially OLDER women; and we are the ones who get called ‘crazy’ for it - unless we manage to write another dysfunctional (XXX!) blockbuster based on all this negligence…
Did you know that Steph’s publisher didn’t want to publish Breaking Dawn? Did you know that New Moon & Eclipse were not supposed to be in between the 1st & last books? Do you ‘get’ that she didn’t mean to cause so many of her OLDER fans to see Edward Cullen the way they came to see him as Christian Grey? Do you understand that these are the reasons why the world has always &STILL bullies Twilight Fans, Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson because of her amateur writing mistakes?
Sick-in-the-head older women had absolutely no right to hijack the pretty fairytale of young girls via Fifty Shades of Grey; and they should care when their daughters are being bullied by the world over it, incessantly.
What’s Wrong with Twilight: Chapter One, First Sight?
The Condensed Version:
The Four Main Complaints of this Blog
against Stephenie Meyer and her ‘professional’ Publishers &
Production Franchise for RARE & irresponsible,
professionally-negligent publishing and movie production.
When the first Twilight movie was being made in 2008; the last book, Breaking Dawn had not been released, yet. Because of this, no one knew at that time that Stephenie Meyer was going to bomb her pretty fairytale into the ground until it was published a few months before the release of the first film.
Extreme chaos & debate surrounded Steph and The Twilight Saga at that time for the exact same reasons that surrounds 50 Shades of Grey - but somehow, she got through it (see side links)...
If 'Midnight Sun' had not been 'accidentally' leaked just prior to the first movie being rushed; AND Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson had not BOTH nailed their parts in that first movie - Twilight would have been history.
Stephenie Meyer could have written any 'ol ending for her infamously overly-obsessed fans (and really, that seems like what she did); and they would have lapped it up like honey (and they did – especially the ones who didn’t know any better, couldn’t see what was wrong – or didn’t care, because of fifty Shades of BEDWARD!!
The entire world has done nothing but treat Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson AND their emotionally-invested fans like sh*t, since - and the infighting among Twilight's divided and HATEFUL fanbases is ongoing.
Despite all this, 'feminists' have embraced the latest and greatest dysfunctional character, Christian Grey/Edward Cullen/Prince Charming...
Popular Email Question: Why does Stephenie Meyer need to apologize? Because the world can’t heal from the wounds she has inflicted on it if she doesn’t acknowledge her amateur mistakes and apologize for them. All she has done from the beginning of her controversies is metaphorically flip off her critics. While normally that is exactly what you are supposed to do… In this case, with all the professional exceptions that were made while The Twilight Saga was being published; the amateur author (AND the publisher AND production franchise) really needed to be listening to fans. It is NOT NORMAL for roughly half of your fanbase (much less, the world!) to become so angry with you regarding a casual creative expression.
I am just using this true stuff about SM’s amateur writing to grab your attention – and boy does it grab some of you, ha! Now if we could just get past that part of things… I really could care less about Stephenie Meyer’s or EL James’ many ignorant and irresponsible amateur literary mistakes that caused all this chaos. Believe it or not, I have stuck up for Stephenie Meyer so many times over this issue, it’s ridiculous.
Creative ‘Freedom of Speech’ is DIFFERENT than the illegal type of ‘Freedom of Speech’ that tabloids & paparazzi hide behind.
Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press were meant to create transparency in order to protect the truth about absolutely everything - not provide a way for mean, greedy tabloid liars to make money off of young (and young-at-heart) fans who are practically defenseless against emotional tabloid & paparazzi assaults (not to mention how even more defenseless Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson are against them)…
This blog now has but one mission: Tabloid & Paparazzi Reform for all celebrities past & present (Princess Diana, anyone?) and it has been that since July 25, 2012 – the day after the infamous cheating scandal. Oh yeah, I’ve been on their stinky tails from the beginning. It hasn’t even been SORT of fun! I really hope we can all manage to put aside our differences and unite to stick it to them, someday. Tabloids & papz so deserve it!!
I don’t care how long it takes. Aside from having really good reasons other than Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson to be concerned for celebrity rights; we fans – no matter which side of the ring we fight on – are getting awfully tired of being manipulated and watching our favorite celebrities being harassed. So many of you do not ‘get’ this; but Robert Pattinson is being attacked and/or used as much as Kristen Stewart in these kinds of stories – no matter ‘how nice’ they seem to be slanted toward him, at times. It is just another way to pour salt on the wounds of their fans by being misogynistic toward both them and Kristen at the same time – using Robert and her anti-fans against their will!!
This is because the world has no respect for Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson or Twilight fans – any version of them; BECAUSE of Stephenie Meyer’s offensive & insulting amateur writing (another reason why she needs to apologize). To the rest of the world, we’re all simply hysterical to bully; just another section of the populace to be targeted and made fun of for profits – via outright assaults and numerous lie upon lie that continues…
Boycott all online and print tabloids until they volunteer to reform.
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Why Do So Many People Hate Kristen Stewart and/or Bella Swan?
or Why/How did so many of Stephenie Meyer’s OLDER fans become so
‘accidentally’ overly-obsessed with the character of Edward Cullen?
Shortest and most anti-fan & fan-variation-inclusive version that I have written, yet!!
Read it only if you dare… and only if you can be HONEST. ;)
Whatever Happened to the ‘Anti-Twilight Army’
from 2008-2009; and WHY don’t you see their support on this blog?
Stephenie Meyer Knows Why Gossip Rags & Paparazzi won’t leave
Robert Pattinson, Kristen Stewart (or her beloved fans) alone.
That’s why she deserves this blog; and it is why it will not be deleted until either
Steph, her professional cronies and/or her fans do something to fix the situation:
‘They took all of my heat, which I feel bad about,' Stephenie
tells The Times Magazine. ‘If they had the choice, I've no idea if
they'd even do Twilight again. I just don't know.
I think this has all come at a heavy price.'
Ya think, Steph?!!
Robert Pattinson’s Career-Hindering Rover Smear
Based on the Whole Wide World’s Twilight Saga Hate
This movie FLOPPED amidst RARE (for him) GLOWING reviews from movie critics at
film festivals who compared his performance to Leo DiCaprio’s Oscar-Nominated
performance in ‘What’s Eating Gilbert Grape’. Yeah, it’s a HUGE deal!!
This movie would not have tanked without way too much ‘help’ from
tabloid manipulation of Twilight’s huge numbers of anti-fans.
Why the Public Shaming of Kristen Stewart MATTERS to Young Girls
by Nico Lang on Huffington Post
Here’s a splash from Nico’s article: "Trampire:" Why the Public Slut Shaming of Kristen Stewart Matters for Young Women “I don't care if Kristen Stewart and Rupert Sanders did it in a car, in a bar, in a house or with a mouse. But while I might not be concerned for K-Stew, I am concerned for my younger stepsister who idolizes and worships her....” And this is an update from Nico on Salon: Racist 'Twilight' fans won't stop harassing Robert Pattinson's girlfriend, FKA Twigs
Yeah, Twilight’s still-many hateful and overly-obsessed
fans managed to p*ss all over the debut of the proclaimed
Celebrity Rookie of the Year 2014
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I have had some really good compliments on my corrective-rewrite of The Twilight Saga from both literary experts and Twilight Fans. It is only a summary, with just the first chapter written as complete to give it the foundation that it should have had (takes 2-3 hours for me to read through it all).
Here is one positive review (sorry, have to scroll down to the comments on this post after the click to read): “I have so very many things to say where to start..... Firstly I love your blog and the rewrite, I felt like you have given the characters depth and a new life. If I were a judge I would totally give you custody! … I am even letting my daughter read it with me because its a good story that is appropriate for kids to read and she LOVES LOVES LOVES IT! Just as much as I do! I think what you have written is loving and responsible to the characters and fans, it is well though out, relevant, and…”
BELIEVE me when I say, I would have MUCH RATHER have LOVED Stephenie Meyer's original Twilight Saga all the way to the bittersweet end. There are not many people on this planet who would have been more PROUD and applauding the loudest for a woman (amateur or not) to have written such a hailed TwiMasterpiece - if Stephenie Meyer had actually done that instead of the embarrassing, barely-edited rough-draft that we got.
This corrective re-write summary is actually very forgiving in many places - at least, where Steph is concerned. I'm sure my anger toward these IRRESPONSIBLE "professional" companies will continue to burn for much longer.
I gave your beautiful fairytale a hell of a shot, sinking MONTHS of my time JUST into researching this subject. (Not counting the months before that when you all had me convinced that it was a WORTHY diversion, ha!)
Between these blogs and the rewrite I have probably written as much as either Steph or Erika have; and I certainly put a lot more thought and creativity (not to mention, knowledge) into it. Just insert either author’s purple prose where applicable while you’re reading, since I didn’t write any – and it is darn near perfect, ha! ;)
As such, you can expect my version of The Twilight Saga to not be XXX. I rewrote Twilight by sticking to the storyline; but I made it believable – really, that was possible. In fact, now that Twilight can be shown as a believable story - it is no longer necessary for Anti-Twilight peeps to continue bullying Twilight Fans just because SM didn’t ‘get’ why she needed to make it believable.
WHY did I take the time to flesh out the character of Bella Swan and Twilight’s vampire (and wolf) storylines? BECAUSE VERY FEW OF YOU OLDER LADIES GIVES A SHIT ABOUT HER (and more importantly, the real Human girl, Kristen Stewart and her millions of young fans) - or ANY of the other Twilight characters, for that matter!
It's EDWARD this and EDWARD that (and sometimes Jacob) - Stephenie BARELY INTRODUCED you to her before you all got hooked on this crap. That's why you can pass this story off, you don't care... You're obsessed about Edward Cullen and could care less about any other character. IF this story had been published for you perverted older brats- Yeah, it would maybe be Ok!
I am NOT talking about you young girls if you're in here reading this - I've heard you talk about Bella and all the other characters. I KNOW you both know and love them, dearly. BUT, those of you who WERE NOT debunked by this storyline (no matter what your age was) SEE these characters differently than so many MORE older ladies do!
Believe it or NOT - Stephenie Meyer and the rest of these women out here (I don't care HOW many of them there are against my ONE voice) are BEING BAD, LoL!
IF we were in college... And the instructor had just given us an assignment to write the first chapter for a novel. IF Stephenie Meyer was a college literary student (which she has been - in FACT, she graduated!); she would probably NOT have gotten an "A" on the first chapter of Twilight - I seriously doubt. I wish a few good English teachers who haven't read the books yet would go through it and grade it - just so we would know, for sure.
I'm not saying that *my* version is a literary marvel - but I have a really good excuse. I have NEVER taken a college writing course much less graduated with a literary degree. If this isn't perfect... Yeah, I know. :)
We make our children do their homework - and dot their "I's" and cross their "T's" - but, WHY didn't this grown adult woman have to?!
I'm going to make you all CARE about Bella and her life, as well as every other character surrounding her - INCLUDING EDWARD - who, it seems to me; you've all just taken under the covers with you to have your way with him like Stephenie Meyer was no doubt doing when she WROTE this stupid saga so ignorantly and irresponsibly...
So when it really comes down to it... YOU robsessed ‘fans’ DON'T even care about Robert Pattinson/Edward Cullen, just your sick little "escape"!
The young adult audience that this story was TARGETED FOR - deserved a whole hell of alot better than what they got. THAT is why I rewrote The Twilight Saga... For ALL THOSE former fans who were debunked by Breaking Dawn after it was published; and then abandoned by the arrogant amateur author afterwards.
We KNEW better... and we were EXPECTING better.
AND it IS ALSO for the rest of you... I DARE you; I quadroople-doople DARE you - READ this and tell me you don't care a lot more about Bella at the end of this Chapter One: First Sight rewrite than you did at the end of Stephenie's first one.
You can think whatever you want to about me... But with this, the two things you CAN'T say about me are that *I* don't LOVE this pretty fairytale OR this fanbase.
Yeah, you be the judge – please.
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TELLING ON my BIG Twilight Sisters: Exactly WHY is The Twilight Saga an Overly-Addictive, Irresponsibly-Targeted "Fairytale" for Young (and EVEN MORESO OLDER!) Impressionable Girls
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BTW, this poll used to contain 508 votes at one point in time. I'm not sure what has happened with losing votes - either Twihards who originally voted realized their votes were incriminating their beloved goddess/amateur author; OR all these accounts have simply been closed over the course of four months for whatever reasons. Doesn't matter, I've got the original 'important' numbers recorded within these posts.
I'm 20 and I know the books are shallow and have flaws but they, - like most of my books - have become my friends I enjoy them,and accept their flaws....that's all P.S. I'm a HUGE Buffy fan ;) I have all 7 seasons on DVD :P I never thought to compare them though twilight is twilight and Buffy is Buffy...they both have flaws but they both have some really enjoyable parts also.that's my take on it.
ReplyDeleteThat's pretty much everyone's "take" on Twilight... Everyone is so forgiving. That's really nice of you. And IF these books hadn't have CAUSED ALL THIS PAIN AND TURMOIL - yeah, I guess it WOULD BE OKAY for those of you who found NOTHING BUT JOY in these books. We didn't all find joy.
ReplyDeleteIf you are a Buffy fan, then you KNOW this story COULD have been done believably for ALL OF US. Why is it SO EASY for you all to dismiss people like me who had SUCH a BAD experience with these books - AND you CAN SEE how much DAMAGE these irresponsible obsessions have brought on the WORLD?
All this stuff MIGHT have been Okay at ONE point in time (since the experiences of us debunked fans means NOTHING to the rest of you) - but it ISN'T ANYMORE since this PR crap started.
How can NONE of you be at all concerned about all these OBVIOUS, PAINFUL OBSESSIONS and what they've DONE and ARE DOING to us, inside?
I'm afraid your ideas are so overly rambling and disconnected that your readers will have immense trouble understanding the point you're trying to make. You also use the term "debunked" incorrectly.
ReplyDeleteAll I can perceive is that you're claiming,"some girls and women are too obsessed with Twilight and it causes them emotional turmoil". Google "Beatlemania" and you'll see fan hysteria is nothing new.
Take Bieber fever. It's similar, expect that Twiliight has a love story that women can "place themselves" into. Young women often have raging sexual hormones but limited sexual experience and these fantasies are a way of "playing" with ideas of love, sex and exploring their own desires for these things in a fantasy environment. It's normal and has been happening since the dawn of time.
Older women who are truly "obsessed" with Twilight are often women who are unhappy in their own relationships, lonely or lacking choices in partners, and enjoy a fantasy of perfect love, often the same way a man might enjoy porn.
As for "blaming" the books and claiming they are deliberately orchestrated to cause obsession, that's very far-fetched idea and in fact, if it was so easy to predict and create such a massive success as Twilight, companies would release a new "addictive" series every month.
In actual fact, the success of any franchise is a combination of marketing, timing and public consciousness. In other words, right story, right time, right marketing campaign. And that formula is very difficult to crack.
Lastly, a lot of the fans who have become "too obsessive" about the series, beyond the usual girlish hysteria, could be suffering from obsessive disorders such as OCD, or anxiety and depression. A young woman's first experiences of something they feel strong emotions over can reveal disorders that will develop as they grow and age.
If you find you're obsessed with something, more often than not, you are making up for problems and issues you already have and that need addressing.
If you feel you cannot control your "obsession" with Twilight - which is now manifesting as an obsession with "proving" Twilight "causing pain and turmoil" you may be suffering from an obsessive compulsive illness. And that does truly cause pain and turmoil, but it's not the fault of the books.
I think you're trying to make sense of the irrational feelings you are feeling and the pain they cause you. You would do better speaking to a psychologist and getting to the root of your obsessive feelings than continuing your Twilight obsession with this "campaign" you are running here on this blog and on many message boards.
It's still an obsession, don't you see? You have just switched focus - from Buffy to Twilight to a campaign to "debunk" Twilight. Those obsessions are in YOU. And without treatment you may find that you will go your whole life getting obsession and suffering over new and deeper obsessions when Twilight is a distant memory.
Thank you for making the time I spent "reading" this incoherent ramble worth my while. You hit the nail on the head. I kept reading, sadly, thinking an intelligent point was going to be made. But or wasn't. I hope she heeds your advice about seeking help AND. .I hope she doesn't know where you live.
DeleteI meant to say: and without treatment you may find that you will go your whole life getting obsessed with new things and suffering over new and deeper obsessions when Twilight is a distant memory.
ReplyDeleteI'd also like to add that I have suffered with OCD since I was 14 years old. I too was obsessed with certain TV shows and stars and singers, and then as I got older my obsessions switched focus, to real people, to drugs, to collecting certain objects.
The "pain and turmoil" never went away, but I have learned to manage it with the help of a psychologist. I suggest you do the same.
If you're so familiar with this kind of thing happening to people, it would have been FAR more helpful for you to be pointing your pearls of wisdom toward people who are not as familiar with this as you and I are. In my opinion, you are helping me to PROVE that these people exist (since you're all so good at ignoring them out here).
DeleteYou think you're telling me something NEW? There are people out there SUFFERING with what you just describe from this saga who are NOT ME.
*I* AM in the RIGHT with my accusations - if I was not things would be different. I would REALLY appreciate it if you would ALL start reading the damn blog and judge it for what is IN IT, instead of looking for issues with my head - because my head is NO DIFFERENT than anyone else's on this planet.
Who I am, f*cking Galileo that you feel a need to prove I'm crazy so that people won't listen to me - so I can't show them the OBVIOUS?
Are you all so far gone that you have COMPLETELY lost all sense of reason and common sense?
Or ARE you someone sent from SUMMIT who has finally caught on that I'm out here; and you've all decided this is important enough for you to be interested in, now?
Doing a little damage-control, maybe?