firstsight

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This isn’t your typical ‘anti-twilight’ blog… This is yet another email (complete with semi-subtle death threat) from someone asking questions about it that some of you may be asking, yourself. Don’t assume that you know what this blog is about simply because you’ve argued on Stephenie Meyer’s behalf before.

This is the very first post on this blog, from my ‘clueless movie fan’ perspective. It was written on Thanksgiving Day, 2011 – then published in here a few days later, after I could reread it and do some editing. It is hysterically funny and incredibly poignant at the same time – for those of you who can’t see Stephenie Meyer’s amateur sexual fantasy floating around in The Twilight Saga. This post is what those of us who ARE familiar with vampires experienced because of Breaking Dawn’s unbelievable ending; and it may help explain for you why this blog exists. It is where absolutely everything started; and demonstrates my intentions for this blog from the beginning. Believe it or not, they were NOT MEAN.

At first, I didn’t know why things were wrong; I only knew that they were – so I was making excuses for Stephenie Meyer in the beginning, LoL! Really… every single estranged TwiFan that she has, USED to be at least a real semi-fan of hers.

Please be patient. I know that most people who are familiar with this controversy have passionate opinions; but what about the rest of you who are completely clueless? I wrote this so that readers would not have to jump off the page, as much. I recommend reading through once; then going back to read links for more details, later. If you get too angry to keep reading, pause and scroll down to the side link collection. I used to be a clueless person in the world, and then a clueless Twilight Movie Fan for a while, too. You’ll see more about me, below. And please forgive the caps, in places. I don’t see them as shouting as some peeps do. They are simply meant to make those words stand out, and that is all…

This blog is all about the accidental and painful over-obsessions of The Twilight Fanbases
that has CONTINUED with a decade of
worldwide bullying and intentional,
emotionally-harsh attacks
on the hearts & minds of little TwiFangirls (and big ones).

The feelings of obsessed fans are real even if
their obsessions are not - until they drift away.
You all KNOW THIS.

Suicide is the 2nd leading cause of death for 15 - 24 year olds in the US.

These are all REAL issues, to name a few - for MILLIONS of people:
Maladaptive Daydreaming

Absorption

Dissociative Disorder
This one is the worst biggie, and starting
to be considered an EPIDEMIC

Why are the obsessions of young girls important?

Because their feelings are real even if the obsessions are not – until they drift away. Young girls NEED their fairytale ‘escapes’ MUCH MORE than older ones do because they have limited ways to cope with life’s crap (read the comments beneath these neverending, misogynistic tabloid assaults – this one is from January 2016). If you’ve never been forced to endure public high school in the US (or anywhere, probably); or been abused as a child (unfortunately, still a common occurrence) - then of course you can’t possibly relate.

How Did this Blog Change to
Tabloid & Paparazzi Reform

- Yeah, I have some really good reasons beyond
Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson and their Fans
(Although I’m pretty sure they are enough reason at this point.)

Why Do People Hate Bella Swan and Kristen Stewart?
Believe it or not, this is a very easy question to answer;
and NO it isn’t because she ‘cheated’.

TwiNewsflash: The concerning over-obsessions of young women was the ONLY REASON that Breaking Dawn was forgiven when it was published in 2008. The ONLY people who have defended this story for being written ‘just like it is’ because ‘Stephenie Meyer is a literary genius’ are her YOUNG (and young-at-heart) fans who were used by both the amateur author and her publisher because ‘they weren’t supposed to know any better’ about vampires.

And, these are the fans who get hit & hurt the most by world bullying. It is really crappy of SM and you older ladies to continue letting them believe what they believe about these books - while they ignorantly & arrogantly (in their over-obsessions) deal with all the hate surrounding Twilight that still exists in big, dynamic ways.

Email Excerpt: “Thank you for writing that wonderful blog.. it was heaven sent.. Please someone tell him (this is ‘why the cheating scandal started’, Aug 2012). He just texted me and said he told my mom.. and for me to get some help.. and bye.. please tell him… Everyone is doing this and it’s killing me.. but everyone acts like they don’t know what I’m talking about.. I don’t think I’ve ever needed anything so bad in all my life than for someone to tell him.. I know they are trying to drive me crazy.. and it’s starting to work.. thanks again, was truly a blessing I needed to read very much so.”

Another email excerpt that I hear all the time from all types of fans:
“…
I have tried speaking to my good friend about my obsession and, as with all of my friends,
doesn't like Twilight and totally judged me lol so your feedback means a lot.”

How to Soothe an Intense Twilight / Robsessed / Krisbian / Robsten Obsession

Anti-Twilight Fans could SEE what Stephenie Meyer didn’t MEAN to write;
and Erika didn’t MEAN to write her books ignorantly, either.
Adult women have 50 Shades of obsessive fog to get past before
they can possibly begin to think clearly about this subject.

Why does The Twilight Saga have so many anti-fans? Why are there hardly any male fans? How did Twilight’s infamous obsessions become over-obsessions? Why are so many older women more obsessed than younger ones? Why did the fandom fracture into several various fanbases that fight among themselves? How did we get 50 Shades of Grey out of all this commotion?

I recorded four wildly-ranting videos (this one is my favorite – calling SM out, ha!) over three years ago at the height of my own very unwanted Twilight over-obsession (It’s not like you can unwatch or unread something – or reclaim wasted time). At that point, I was really mad about ‘how I was obsessed’ with this pretty fairytale; and I was mad that Stephenie Meyer had ‘accidentally’ done this to so many other people before me - and didn’t correct any of the dysfunction in her books before she made them into movies.

I actually say this in the second video before I had even heard of 50 Shades of Grey... “It sounds to me like Stephenie has some sort of BDSM fetish, but I don’t even sort of want to think about that right now.” (Video #12 is where you will hear me say this.)

And yet, somehow 50 Shades of Grey (this post is what exactly is wrong with fifty shades) exists as Twilight Fanfiction; and is yet another dysfunctional worldwide ‘phenomenon’?! Do you have any idea how disturbing that is? Not only does it make my skin crawl – it’s just wrong.

There are real amateur literary reasons why Twilight messed with so many people’s heads – especially OLDER women; and we are the ones who get called ‘crazy’ for it - unless we manage to write another dysfunctional (XXX!) blockbuster based on all this negligence…

Did you know that Steph’s publisher didn’t want to publish Breaking Dawn? Did you know that New Moon & Eclipse were not supposed to be in between the 1st & last books? Do you ‘get’ that she didn’t mean to cause so many of her OLDER fans to see Edward Cullen the way they came to see him as Christian Grey? Do you understand that these are the reasons why the world has always &STILL bullies Twilight Fans, Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson because of her amateur writing mistakes?

Sick-in-the-head older women had absolutely no right to hijack the pretty fairytale of young girls via Fifty Shades of Grey; and they should care when their daughters are being bullied by the world over it, incessantly.

What’s Wrong with Twilight: Chapter One, First Sight?

The Condensed Version:
The Four Main Complaints of this Blog
against Stephenie Meyer and her ‘professional’ Publishers &
Production Franchise for RARE & irresponsible,
professionally-negligent publishing and movie production.

When the first Twilight movie was being made in 2008; the last book, Breaking Dawn had not been released, yet. Because of this, no one knew at that time that Stephenie Meyer was going to bomb her pretty fairytale into the ground until it was published a few months before the release of the first film.

Extreme chaos & debate surrounded Steph and The Twilight Saga at that time for the exact same reasons that surrounds 50 Shades of Grey - but somehow, she got through it (see side links)...

If 'Midnight Sun' had not been 'accidentally' leaked just prior to the first movie being rushed; AND Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson had not BOTH nailed their parts in that first movie - Twilight would have been history.

Stephenie Meyer could have written any 'ol ending for her infamously overly-obsessed fans (and really, that seems like what she did); and they would have lapped it up like honey (and they did – especially the ones who didn’t know any better, couldn’t see what was wrong – or didn’t care, because of fifty Shades of BEDWARD!!

The entire world has done nothing but treat Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson AND their emotionally-invested fans like sh*t, since - and the infighting among Twilight's divided and HATEFUL fanbases is ongoing.

Despite all this, 'feminists' have embraced the latest and greatest dysfunctional character, Christian Grey/Edward Cullen/Prince Charming...

Popular Email Question: Why does Stephenie Meyer need to apologize? Because the world can’t heal from the wounds she has inflicted on it if she doesn’t acknowledge her amateur mistakes and apologize for them. All she has done from the beginning of her controversies is metaphorically flip off her critics. While normally that is exactly what you are supposed to do… In this case, with all the professional exceptions that were made while The Twilight Saga was being published; the amateur author (AND the publisher AND production franchise) really needed to be listening to fans. It is NOT NORMAL for roughly half of your fanbase (much less, the world!) to become so angry with you regarding a casual creative expression.

I am just using this true stuff about SM’s amateur writing to grab your attention – and boy does it grab some of you, ha! Now if we could just get past that part of things… I really could care less about Stephenie Meyer’s or EL James’ many ignorant and irresponsible amateur literary mistakes that caused all this chaos. Believe it or not, I have stuck up for Stephenie Meyer so many times over this issue, it’s ridiculous.

Creative ‘Freedom of Speech’ is DIFFERENT than the illegal type of ‘Freedom of Speech’ that tabloids & paparazzi hide behind.

Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press were meant to create transparency in order to protect the truth about absolutely everything - not provide a way for mean, greedy tabloid liars to make money off of young (and young-at-heart) fans who are practically defenseless against emotional tabloid & paparazzi assaults (not to mention how even more defenseless Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson are against them)…

This blog now has but one mission: Tabloid & Paparazzi Reform for all celebrities past & present (Princess Diana, anyone?) and it has been that since July 25, 2012 – the day after the infamous cheating scandal. Oh yeah, I’ve been on their stinky tails from the beginning. It hasn’t even been SORT of fun! I really hope we can all manage to put aside our differences and unite to stick it to them, someday. Tabloids & papz so deserve it!!

I don’t care how long it takes. Aside from having really good reasons other than Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson to be concerned for celebrity rights; we fans – no matter which side of the ring we fight on – are getting awfully tired of being manipulated and watching our favorite celebrities being harassed. So many of you do not ‘get’ this; but Robert Pattinson is being attacked and/or used as much as Kristen Stewart in these kinds of stories – no matter ‘how nice’ they seem to be slanted toward him, at times. It is just another way to pour salt on the wounds of their fans by being misogynistic toward both them and Kristen at the same time – using Robert and her anti-fans against their will!!

This is because the world has no respect for Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson or Twilight fans – any version of them; BECAUSE of Stephenie Meyer’s offensive & insulting amateur writing (another reason why she needs to apologize). To the rest of the world, we’re all simply hysterical to bully; just another section of the populace to be targeted and made fun of for profits – via outright assaults and numerous lie upon lie that continues

Boycott all online and print tabloids until they volunteer to reform.

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Why Do So Many People Hate Kristen Stewart and/or Bella Swan?
or Why/How did so many of Stephenie Meyer’s OLDER fans become so
‘accidentally’ overly-obsessed with the character of Edward Cullen?
Shortest and most anti-fan & fan-variation-inclusive version that I have written, yet!!
Read it only if you dare… and only if you can be HONEST. ;)

Whatever Happened to the ‘Anti-Twilight Army’
from 2008-2009; and WHY don’t you see their support on this blog?

Stephenie Meyer Knows Why Gossip Rags & Paparazzi won’t leave
Robert Pattinson, Kristen Stewart (or her beloved fans) alone.

That’s why she deserves this blog; and it is why it will not be deleted until either
Steph, her professional cronies and/or her fans do something to fix the situation:

‘They took all of my heat, which I feel bad about,' Stephenie
tells The Times Magazine. ‘If they had the choice, I've no idea if

they'd even do Twilight again. I just don't know.
I think this has all come at a heavy price.'

Ya think, Steph?!!

Robert Pattinson’s Career-Hindering Rover Smear
Based on the Whole Wide World’s Twilight Saga Hate

This movie FLOPPED amidst RARE (for him) GLOWING reviews from movie critics at
film festivals who compared his performance to Leo DiCaprio’s Oscar-Nominated
performance in ‘What’s Eating Gilbert Grape’. Yeah, it’s a HUGE deal!!
This movie would not have tanked without way too much ‘help’ from
tabloid manipulation of Twilight’s huge numbers of anti-fans.

Why the Public Shaming of Kristen Stewart MATTERS to Young Girls
by Nico Lang on Huffington Post

Here’s a splash from Nico’s article: "Trampire:" Why the Public Slut Shaming of Kristen Stewart Matters for Young Women “I don't care if Kristen Stewart and Rupert Sanders did it in a car, in a bar, in a house or with a mouse. But while I might not be concerned for K-Stew, I am concerned for my younger stepsister who idolizes and worships her....” And this is an update from Nico on Salon: Racist 'Twilight' fans won't stop harassing Robert Pattinson's girlfriend, FKA Twigs

Yeah, Twilight’s still-many hateful and overly-obsessed
fans managed to p*ss all over the debut of the proclaimed

Celebrity Rookie of the Year 2014

Aren’t we sweet?

COMMENTS from the WORLD

RobnKris

RobnKris

I have had some really good compliments on my corrective-rewrite of The Twilight Saga from both literary experts and Twilight Fans. It is only a summary, with just the first chapter written as complete to give it the foundation that it should have had (takes 2-3 hours for me to read through it all).

Here is one positive review (sorry, have to scroll down to the comments on this post after the click to read): “I have so very many things to say where to start..... Firstly I love your blog and the rewrite, I felt like you have given the characters depth and a new life. If I were a judge I would totally give you custody! … I am even letting my daughter read it with me because its a good story that is appropriate for kids to read and she LOVES LOVES LOVES IT! Just as much as I do! I think what you have written is loving and responsible to the characters and fans, it is well though out, relevant, and…”

BELIEVE me when I say, I would have MUCH RATHER have LOVED Stephenie Meyer's original Twilight Saga all the way to the bittersweet end. There are not many people on this planet who would have been more PROUD and applauding the loudest for a woman (amateur or not) to have written such a hailed TwiMasterpiece - if Stephenie Meyer had actually done that instead of the embarrassing, barely-edited rough-draft that we got.

This corrective re-write summary is actually very forgiving in many places - at least, where Steph is concerned. I'm sure my anger toward these IRRESPONSIBLE "professional" companies will continue to burn for much longer.

I gave your beautiful fairytale a hell of a shot, sinking MONTHS of my time JUST into researching this subject. (Not counting the months before that when you all had me convinced that it was a WORTHY diversion, ha!)

Between these blogs and the rewrite I have probably written as much as either Steph or Erika have; and I certainly put a lot more thought and creativity (not to mention, knowledge) into it. Just insert either author’s purple prose where applicable while you’re reading, since I didn’t write any – and it is darn near perfect, ha! ;)

As such, you can expect my version of The Twilight Saga to not be XXX. I rewrote Twilight by sticking to the storyline; but I made it believable – really, that was possible. In fact, now that Twilight can be shown as a believable story - it is no longer necessary for Anti-Twilight peeps to continue bullying Twilight Fans just because SM didn’t ‘get’ why she needed to make it believable.

WHY did I take the time to flesh out the character of Bella Swan and Twilight’s vampire (and wolf) storylines? BECAUSE VERY FEW OF YOU OLDER LADIES GIVES A SHIT ABOUT HER (and more importantly, the real Human girl, Kristen Stewart and her millions of young fans) - or ANY of the other Twilight characters, for that matter!

It's EDWARD this and EDWARD that (and sometimes Jacob) - Stephenie BARELY INTRODUCED you to her before you all got hooked on this crap. That's why you can pass this story off, you don't care... You're obsessed about Edward Cullen and could care less about any other character. IF this story had been published for you perverted older brats- Yeah, it would maybe be Ok!

I am NOT talking about you young girls if you're in here reading this - I've heard you talk about Bella and all the other characters. I KNOW you both know and love them, dearly. BUT, those of you who WERE NOT debunked by this storyline (no matter what your age was) SEE these characters differently than so many MORE older ladies do!

Believe it or NOT - Stephenie Meyer and the rest of these women out here (I don't care HOW many of them there are against my ONE voice) are BEING BAD, LoL!

IF we were in college... And the instructor had just given us an assignment to write the first chapter for a novel. IF Stephenie Meyer was a college literary student (which she has been - in FACT, she graduated!); she would probably NOT have gotten an "A" on the first chapter of Twilight - I seriously doubt. I wish a few good English teachers who haven't read the books yet would go through it and grade it - just so we would know, for sure.

I'm not saying that *my* version is a literary marvel - but I have a really good excuse. I have NEVER taken a college writing course much less graduated with a literary degree. If this isn't perfect... Yeah, I know. :)

We make our children do their homework - and dot their "I's" and cross their "T's" - but, WHY didn't this grown adult woman have to?!

I'm going to make you all CARE about Bella and her life, as well as every other character surrounding her - INCLUDING EDWARD - who, it seems to me; you've all just taken under the covers with you to have your way with him like Stephenie Meyer was no doubt doing when she WROTE this stupid saga so ignorantly and irresponsibly...

So when it really comes down to it... YOU robsessed ‘fans’ DON'T even care about Robert Pattinson/Edward Cullen, just your sick little "escape"!

The young adult audience that this story was TARGETED FOR - deserved a whole hell of alot better than what they got. THAT is why I rewrote The Twilight Saga... For ALL THOSE former fans who were debunked by Breaking Dawn after it was published; and then abandoned by the arrogant amateur author afterwards.

We KNEW better... and we were EXPECTING better.

AND it IS ALSO for the rest of you... I DARE you; I quadroople-doople DARE you - READ this and tell me you don't care a lot more about Bella at the end of this Chapter One: First Sight rewrite than you did at the end of Stephenie's first one.

You can think whatever you want to about me... But with this, the two things you CAN'T say about me are that *I* don't LOVE this pretty fairytale OR this fanbase.

Yeah, you be the judge – please.

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This is a Summary List of Links for this Blog – More Links Galore Within Them!!

Most Popular Keyword Searches
into this blog

The TwiSmears

The Twilight Saga

Stephenie Meyer

The Fanbases


Why the ‘Cheating’ Scandal Started; Telling on My Big TwiSisters (Aug 2012, 1 mo. After)

Nothing but LOVE for
our Twilight Character
Actors & Actresses
- THANK YOU!

An Anti-Twilight Fan's Dream Talk with SM

Twihards - We Movie Fans
Deserve a Discussion


July 2012 'Cheating' Scandal

What actually happened
to Kristen Stewart with Rupert Sanders that day? Why did robsten really break up?

Why is Twilight so Addictive? How Did it Inspire 50 Shades of Grey?

Questions for Steph:
Twilight, a Post-Mortem

Defining Twilight's
Various Fanbases
…In which I actually
stick up for
Stephenie Meyer, OMG!


Additional & Extended Scandal Timelines

- WAY more info than you want; but some peeps just can’t get enough. ;)

What's Wrong with Twilight Chapter
One: First Sight
?

1st Original Blog Post
- How Can You See
Steph's Sexual Fantasy
Glaring thru Twilight
?


Letter to My Little Twilight Sisters – Why I Keep Picking on Twilight.

Pre-Cheating Scandal Smears that have been going on since 2008.

Twilight: Breaking Dawn Parts 1 & 2 Movie Reviews
- easiest to see literary dysfunctions


Ramifications of Wrong Writing in the Case of Twilight Addictions
Whatever happened to the Anti-Twilight Army?


Letter to My Big Twilight Sisters – Are You SURE Breaking Dawn is Okay?


Fan & Anti-Fan Hate-Debate; December 2014
- Fans reveal how harmful tabloids have been via online article comments.


Official Reasoning for
Every Little Thing
Wrong with Twilight


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HELP with a Twilight Obsession; Immortalicum & ‘Demonic Messages’?!


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?


What Have Heartbroken Fans Been Saying
Since the Scandal in July 2012?


What EXACTLY is Wrong with Stephenie Meyer’s Sparkling ‘Vampires’?
- Written BEFORE I watched her movies.


What a JOKE!
Twilight is Coming to Facebook Because ‘the voices of women are important to Steph’!!


What Does Robert Pattinson Think About His OLDER ‘robsessed’ Twihard & Anti-Twilight ‘Fans’, BOTH?

What Have Mean Fans Been Saying Since the Scandal in July 2012?

YouTube Video Collection
'What's Wrong with The Twilight Saga'
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Final Judgment of
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Or, Why I HATE (omg!) SM and Her ARMY of Desperate Housewives – et all TwiJerks & Anti-TwiJerks Over 30.


Help Easing a Stubborn
Twilight and/or Robsten
Obsession

Robert Pattinson's Post-Scandal Career Hindering Rover Smear
- Based on the Wide World’s Twilight Hate

Fanfiction Corrective Rewrite Summary (2+ hours) Edward Cullen
Explains His Pretty
Vampire Sparkles
,
believable ending
and MORE!


Let’s Talk About ‘Midnight Sun’
and how Steph Could POSSIBLY Make Her Huge Literary Failure up to The World.

Who am I?

12/27/13

LETTER to My BIG Twilight Sisters - Are You SURE Twilight Breaking Dawn is Ok?

COMMENTS from the CROWD - Love me or Hate me


Update 5/12/12 (below)
 

Update 1/6/12 - The reason for this "update" is because 1) I've moved the long "About Me/Who Am I" ramble at the beginning of this post into its own post, for those of you who may be interested; and 2) I think I've discovered "points" that may help the conversation become more reasonable for us.

I know I can get "hot" sometimes toward my Twilight sisters, but it really is NOT my intention to "be mean" - I'm just trying to poke at you and get your attention so we can talk - because I started out trying to be nice and it wasn't working, ha! 

Some comments are starting to happen at the end of this
, and one of them should probably be up here at the top. PLEASE keep reading. I KNOW I'm semi-crazy, but I'm not in this case for some dumb reason!

Posted as a Comment Response by me: I'm pretty sure that one of the reasons you're not taking this very seriously is because of the fact that *I* have not read the books - frankly, I'm afraid to, ha! (I REALLY am!) (AND, I have since started reading them again.)

However, I've read quite alot through bits and pieces of them - especially where the baby is concerned.

AND... This was just another ONE of my many clues about all of this... I DID read "Midnight Sun" and I read through the first 5 chapters of the original Twilight book during my "anxiously reading over the book jackets moments" - I read those before I picked up the next 3 books and discovered the flaw.

After I read those first few chapters, my VERY first thought was, "what a smooth read, this is going to be easy". THIS thought is significant for me, because I have SUCH a hard time reading through an entire book these days because I've allowed my head to become SO screwed up. I have almost NO attention span!

My second thought was, "Wow, I read through 5 chapters and I didn't hardly notice - STEPHENIE MEYER MUST BE GOOD!"

Also (inserting another partial comment response by me) I really do not think that the movies are NEARLY as addictive as the books are (I have since changed my mind about this. The Twilight Movies ARE JUST AS ADDICTIVE as the books are if not MORESO). I doubt that nearly as many people have become addicted through the movies. Its just that *I* (and probably alot of young girls who are in the same boat as I was at that age - there are unfortunately no shortages of girls like me out there still today) am so incredibly susceptible to falling under the spell of stuff like this.
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Original Post 12/27/11 - Yes, you read that right, LONG BEFORE these 'robsten' PR assaults started happening to the extreme that they have. Of course, these assaults have always been going on since the BEGINNING of the very first Twilight Movie's success.


Last night, I was updating my “NUTHIN But LOVE for Our Twilight Character Actors” post, and I noticed that the link to the video I had originally put up was broken (it was a link to a photoshoot of the cast). So, I ventured back out into Internetland to find another appropriate video that would seem as equally-celebratory.

And I stumbled across everyone’s favorite Twilight fan videos up on YouTube… You probably know who I’m talking about. The wildly-crazed young girl from the UK who seriously CANNOT contain herself regarding all things Twilight!

I’ve only ever watched her once before a few weeks ago. It was a video where her and her little friend were camping out in line at the Breaking Dawn UK premiere. They were SO cute and adorable in their excitement. But, I was just coming across that video about the time I was starting to figure all this silly stuff out about Twilight – so I felt both thrilled and sad (and envious) for them at the same time. I hadn't thought much else about her since then…

But the original Twilight movie was my favorite Twilight movie, and every single person who I have had discussions with about the Twilight Saga agrees with me on that. While that may not be true for “book fans”, most of the women I’ve talked to have NOT read the Twilight books (with one exception, and she was Team Jacob - THAT was a fun conversation!) – so, I’m pretty confident with that assessment on behalf of us “movie fans”.

I came across this girl’s video of her reaction to the original Twilight movie as the trailer was first coming out online – and its just so FUN! She’s SO innocent and raw in her passion and excitement about Twilight, and she’s just so beautiful and contagious about it; I will admit that I was ALMOST beginning to wonder if I was doing the right thing about trying to bring people to alter their perception about this subject.

And after I watched her video for the fifth time, I think (as it brought all those warm, thrilling memories from the movie back, and why and how much I loved it)... I noticed another video down the page from her titled, “im getting really sick of the breaking dawn haters!!!” And I was really curious about what she had to say - the most brilliant Twilight Fan star out there – especially since I’m not getting any feedback from anyone in here. I was pretty sure she was going to lay it on me (and she does)!

And while I watched her chew all of us Twilight Breaking Dawn haters out, one thing that she says in here really struck me… About halfway through, she starts talking at her friends – apparently, some of them were not as thrilled as she was about the ending of Breaking Dawn either; and she’s trying really hard to convince us all how brilliant Stephenie Meyer is and how ungrateful the rest of us are.

"... the storyline wasn't what I expected..."

Watch it... It almost sounds to me like she could have been as heartbroken as some of the rest of us were about how this story turned out. But, she's too obsessed and addicted to even consider that something might be wrong with her beautiful fairytale. I wonder how many original Twilight book fans might have been (or are) really just as disappointed as I am deep inside; but are just unable to admit it - still.

I know its a hard hill to climb to get from there to here (GOD, don't I know it); but it can be done - and I PROMISE, you don't have to grow-all-up and become Ms. Responsible Adult when you get here; only when you're on stage. ; >

I really wish I could feel about this story the same way she does and all the rest of you do, but I just can't - I tried for months, I REALLY did. I'm sorry.

Here is a link on YouTube of her very first Twilight movie trailer reaction in 2008. Watch her, she's US - she's JUST like us inside; except before our lives became so vicariously jaded - young and new and raw and passionate, and pure in her joy and fascination with Twilight! She's SO beautiful!

And now watch her chewing out us mean Breaking Dawn people... How convinced are you at the end of this, what do you really think? I think she has a broken Twilight heart inside. I would have LOVED to have seen her reaction to a well-told version of this beautiful story. Wouldn't you? (btw, she's mad, expect some explicit language.)

Update 5/12/12 - I just realized that there are connections within my blog that I didn't know were here, so I'm inserting them, now...

In the video above, Nutty Madame mentions someone named "Tech". It is obviously someone she knows and she's a little sad about them not agreeing on this subject. They are/were a couple of teenage friends - I'm going to guess they knew each other online because of Twilight. They ended up on opposing sides of this argument.

Tech is a very interesting person... (I'm going to assume we are talking about the same "Tech") If you've read through the sidelinks on my blog - you've seen this link to her videos debunking this story WAY BETTER than I ever could, ha! I am also beginning to wonder - after reading through the old Breaking Dawn petition - if she isn't the person who instigated it.

But, she was a teenager - a hormone infested, make-a-big-deal, obsessed CHILD who was doing nothing but throwing a fit about Breaking Dawn, right? WHO was going to take her over-reactive, adolescent ramblings seriously?

LADIES... If we thought about this story using HALF the brain that Tech did, we would NOT EVEN be having this discussion. SHE is/was NOT the one who was OBSESSED!

And there was another girl up on YouTube, Melina Pendulum, who did a response to one of Nutty Madame's video's. In it, she does a really good job of explaining "why logic belongs in Fiction". She's made a few videos. I've used her as a resource in the YouTube videos that I made. I'm sorry - All of Melina's Twilight YouTube videos are down, now. I don't know why, I've contacted her for a reason a couple of times, but haven't received a reply - it started out with the one video after the cheating scandal started and then later she removed the rest of them. She's probably trying to be nice and took them down so that Twilight Fans didn't have to be irritated with them if they came across them.

I'm sorry, Melina - if I didn't feel your points were a valid, important perspective that would HELP people see this stuff, I wouldn't put you up here like this.

These are clips from her videos that I captured for use in my own YouTube videos. I have more, but these are the most important ones:





And JUST for the fun of it... I'm going to add a guy's voice into this slot - Writer from Nowhere. He seems to be around the same age - maybe a little older - and brings yet EVEN MORE heated logic into the conversation. It's pretty safe to say, in fact, that "Writer" considers Stephenie Meyer's writing to be criminal, ha!

THIS is the kind of dialog that was going on back in 2008/2009 after Twilight Breaking Dawn was published - and they are all roughly around the same age bracket that Stephenie Meyer was writing for.

In this day and age of corporate greed and manipulation... Are you SURE you weren't jipped by the author of Twilight by the Breaking Dawn storyline?

If You're at All as Curious
as I am About "How Twilight Fans Thought
Breaking Dawn was Going to End" Before it was Published
CLICK HERE

STILL Don't BELIEVE Me? In case you missed it at the top of my blog, here's my latest post on this subject: Watch This HEARTBREAKING Video by an Ex-Twihard

As far as I'm concerned, this and the links along the side all you need if you're a Twilight book fan from the way back. If you're relatively new to this discussion as I am, you might want to continue reading. But this is not something that necessarily needs to be taken in all in at once - you can come back to it, or just pick through it. I know there's alot here.

What can I say, I'm obsessed about coming out of my Twilight obsession; and I guess I don't really have any intention of leaving you all entirely submerged in this hazardous waste whether you like it or not. And while I realize that "not everyone needs/wants to be rescued" - there are obviously a WHOLE hell of alot of you who do, or at least you need help getting a little dislodged!

You have no idea how sad I am about all of this - I almost wish I was crazy. It really wasn't my intention to completely debunk Twilight when I began writing this blog; I was just trying to "get people to see reason" from my own silly, selfish fantasy-vantage point.

But I am now SO much angrier than I was when I began, at not only Summit Entertainment for making the Twilight movies like this; but the book company - Little, Brown and Company for publishing these books "as is". I would LOVE to have a conversation with the person/people who are responsible for allowing Twilight to be published in such an irresponsible way.

- WHY?!!

WERE any of you head-honchos at the book publishing company actually qualified to judge characters and storylines, or even capable of recommending writing edits to the author of Twilight? Did any of you have college literary degrees that included some sort of slant toward adolescent education or development - in order for you to be in charge of making decisions about what your company puts out here for young adolescent girls? Or, did you simply pair your new, sparkling, up-and-coming amateur author with an amateur editor because that person was supposedly "good enough" to judge "highest quality" literature for young girls? I mean, here's what readers see on the opening page of your website:

Little, Brown and Company’s books and authors. One of the country’s oldest and most distinguished publishing houses, Little, Brown is committed to publishing fiction of the highest quality and non-fiction of lasting significance, by many of America’s finest writers.

I'm just going to leave all this up and watch it smolder while everyone thinks about it, and until enough people stumble across it and read it. I can't take it down, this is all too disturbing...

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The easiest way to go through this blog (if you're interested in reading thru my ENTIRE story)
is to START HERE with the 1st post at the beginning and read through all four original posts as they were posted - because I think there is alot of revelation in just reading/watching how my disturbing realizations about the Twilight storyline came to me -
especially since I really wasn't planning to discover all the things I ended up uncovering about Twilight.

22 comments:

  1. Ok, lady...I have read some and skimmed over a lot of what you have written here. Some makes sense but mostly not so much. We all have minds and mostly live in the real world...it is a MOVIE based on a FICTIONAL BOOK. Yes, it has allowed some people to relive the romantic ideas that young girls have and there is nothing wrong with that...it is when people take it to the extreme that there is a problem. Trust me...fantasizing about Robert Pattinson is a far cry from other things any of us could get ourselves into...and you really should just chill out...let people have their moments of escape. There are far more pressing matters in the world to get worked up over like homelessness, starving children, social security, etc. Have a nice day!

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  2. So... you really DON'T think we should be at ALL concerned about a book publishing company who allowed this story to be told with such an addictive twist to young girls whose MINDS are STILL developing and are NOT where "ours" are, now? You OBVIOUSLY didn't read the parts you NEEDED to.

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  3. I'm sorry... The argument about this all being Ok because "this kind of fantasy escape is normal" is TOTALLY MOOT at this point - the conversation needs to take a different direction. THAT argument has been RUN into the ground already (read any of the comments strings in any of the articles on the side if you've missed out on it) THIS argument needs to be a more constructive one. The reason is... We can ALL SEE Twilight for what it is, now. No more excusing it!

    I can certainly understand why *my* story doesn’t affect you at all – SO the *F* what if ONE damaged individual almost got swallowed whole by this stupid storyline! But HERE’S my POINT for ALL of you who just CAN’T read through this:

    Is Twilight really the kind of addictive story that should have been allowed to be directed at our daughters - girls who (hopefully) don't have any reason to become so enthralled with such silly story? I mean, I'm sure some girls are fine... But how many more aren't, and more importantly - how do you know? How WILL you know until they're all done growing up in another decade or two?

    I would THINK this is an important topic to be having a seriously-silly conversation about!

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  4. You seriously must have some issues and im sorry for that. You are not the only person in this world who had a rough life, being as I myself and several other people that I know as well, have been hurt and abused. We all watched it...all of the movies and read the books and loved the story and thought it was sweet and old fashioned and all thought how nice it would be if men acted the way Edward was WRITTEN in the books. The real tragedy is that guys don't act that way and our young girls coming up now wont ever know what it is to have a man to treat them the way they should. Dont get me wrong...there are some young men that are respectful but not the way they used to be. But seriously, if a girl OR a woman can't keep it together and not be influenced to the extremes that you are so concerned about...well there are issues there that really do need to be addressed and that in itself is a true tragedy! I myself have known plenty of young girls (nieces and friends' children) who have read the books and watched the movie and trust me...they swooned, oooohed, and awed over the books and movies but in no way ever thought that they were IN LOVE with Robert Pattinson or Taylor Lautner or BELIEVED that a vampire exists, let alone that one could father a baby. Maybe you are selling our youth short...maybe you need therapy...I don't know. I just know that you are fighting against something that is truly ridiculous. No one makes us see these movies or read these books but I for one am grateful to live in this country where it is my right to and someone like you can't tell me I can't. I personally enjoy being able to "get lost" in a good movie but have no problem coming back to reality. Please don't sell our young girls short or say that only horny housewives can like these movies...or that we are all delusional because quite frankly I think you might be.

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  5. So I guess this is just another new obsession of yours...

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  6. Not any where near an obsession...I loved the movies but haven't seen any of them in months...I guess maybe im the only sane person on this site....you anti twilighters really do need to get a life...if you ask me yall are the obsessive ones!!!

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  7. Seriously... *IF* you and your family are REALLY so well-adjusted (this goes for the rest of you, too) - then maybe this article isn't MEANT for you since you could care less about the rest of us or our shitty experiences with Twilight - obsessed or not. IF this story REALLY had been written AND edited PROFESSIONALLY & CORRECTLY - NONE of us would have been OBSESSED - but that means NOTHING to you because we are all NORMAL and so many more others of us are not? I've already ADMITTED my dysfunction SEVERAL times over in here - INCLUDING the fact that THIS project is my NEW obsession! THANKS BOTH of you for NOT reading before commenting, FIRST! You don't think becoming obsessed with this stupid story is a big deal maybe you've never been obsessed. GOOD for you! Knowing that doesn't do ME a DAMN bit of good! It only means that I need to be making a BIGGER deal out of all this!

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  8. This is the last comment I will make here as you clearly have issues. Anyone can try to write and be a professional writer so saying the series was or wasn't professionally written is moot. The editing im sure was not done by a 5th grader just taken off the street. It is people like you who would blame a band because a person takes a song too literally and commits suicide or robs a convenience store or sleeps with too many people and then wants to blame the band who sung the song. You seriously need therapy sweetheart. Parents should be talking to their children, helping them to understand the difference between reality and fantasy...my kids knew the difference at the ripe old age of 3, had good imaginations ,playing in neverland but living in the real world.

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  9. You SO miss the POINT! You can SEE plain as day - NOW in hindsight with the HUGE PILE of evidence along the side links (due to an inept book publishing company - HOW we've all gotten SUCKED into this story, and its OK with you?! (WHY DO ALL HAVE SUCH A HARDON FOR LITTLE, BROWN & SUMMIT?!)

    Do you pour sugary piss on your kids pancakes or Maple Syrup, lady? Would you allow your daughters to watch hard porn at the age of 13? THAT'S what you all allowed them to READ and condone! Of COURSE you won't admit it!

    If GROWN women can't get through this addiction or even SEE it for what it is? HOW the HELL are they EVER going to help their own kids out of it?

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  10. I've been reading your posts about all of this and I just really have to say WOW! As a person who has read numerous adult fiction romance novel, and young adult vampire novels, and a whole load of other books I never once thought of Twilight as any type of sexual fantasy. Sure you can defiantly see the sexual tension between Robert and Kristen in the movies, but in the books you draw up your own characters. I read all 4 books before the movies even came out. I am a fan of them and the movies, but I'm not obsessed with it at all. Does Stephanie's writing desire more, heck yes. Lots of mistakes were made and they have been pointed out. You yourself said when you got the books you were excited to see what she had in store for them next. Well having a baby was the next step for them. Is it reality? UM no most definitely not because they are not real to begin with. The actors are what makes it real. If I recall correctly Interview with the Vampire is what almost a 3 hr movie? Well with the Twilight Saga you are throwing a lot of information into a 2 hour movie. I do have 3 children who have all watched the movies with me. My girls who are now 13, and 12 have seen them with me, and they like you, have not even picked up one of the books to read. They have only seen the movies, and they know its not real. Do they see it as a sexual fantasy? Hell no. They just like the story and want to see what is going to happen. The girls and I have talked about it over and over again many times. I even have a daughter who is team Jacob, and well I don't particularly like him too much. I'm more of and Edward fan, or actually a Cullen fan.

    The hotness factor is very great in the movie and could be toned down I'm sure.

    As a big Vampire fan out there for I also am a huge Buffy and Angle fan as well. There are many authors who take the Vampire lore and change it around a little. Yes we are not brought up with Vampire's being sparkly, but yet you were okay with that. Your not okay with a vampire/human baby? Yet you stated in your post that you got over Angle and Darla having a child. In Stephanie's eyes she saw this as okay. Since you haven't read the book, nor seen the movie, Breaking Dawn Pt 1 you obviously don't know the situation that arose from Bella having the baby. I don't remember ever reading or seeing any evidence that she wants to have a baby. Yes that's normal human nature for women to having a child. (I've also lost a child, and had 3 miscarriages myself. You never forget them.) Until Bella is faced with the fact that there is a baby she had given up wanting one for she knew she wouldn't be able to. I've read other books about the Vampire genre that Vampires do produce children. You should check out the Vampire Academy series. Its a young adult genre as well and its awesome. In this series the Vampires (Moroi) procreate to have Dampi around (they protect the royal Moroi). (I'm sure that's not how its spelt, but my books are not around at the moment.) Its pretty much all in your mind set I guess. You can either accept it or not. The choice is ours, and whether you like it or not, you won't change mine or anyone else s.

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  11. Tonia, it is so nice to see someone else that has it together. Its a movie for crying out loud and I too am Team Edward! Oh, well...it is JUST a movie after all...
    And Catherine, no I do not our sugary piss on my kids pancakes and since we are all sharing our misfortunes, I have 2 beautiful boys, 16 & 14, but I have been the victim of sexual abuse and have had 3 miscarriages of my own...I have had my parents crosses to bear and yet here we are having this discussion. I have a great mentor in my mother and I have no dilusions that this is a movie based on characters. Yes the writing could have been better but it is what it is.

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  12. Authors have to step out of the box sometimes you know. That is what makes a good writer. If you can't accept how they step out of that box then well you have to find a way to deal.

    Also how could you NOT have know they had a baby. Do you live under a rock or something? How could you possibly not see all the fan art out there or the fan videos on utube. Come on. Also why are you complaining about something being bad when you've made it clear that you have no intention of reading the book that you find so terrible. Yes I actually thought the book was going to end differently with some of my favorite characters being killed off by Volteri, and well that didn't happen. And you've no intention of seeing the movie because of what...a baby. That's totally crazy. What would you do if you found out that Jacob imprinted with such baby...HORRORS!

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  13. Tonia, honestly... If you and/or your kids have only watched Twilight and not read the books, I can TOTALLY get that. The movies are not NEARLY as addictive as the books are. I doubt that nearly as many people have become addicted through the movies. Its just that *I* (and probably alot of young girls who are in the same boat as I was at that age) am so incredibly susceptible to falling under the spell of stuff like this.

    This post is trying to make the point that people who had ALREADY READ the books are/were too addicted to see 'what was really happening' to judge this story - at least, roughly half of them were.

    Also, if *I* were the only person who had come to this conclusion, I wouldn't be standing up here making such a big deal. ALOT of people were unhappy and their VALID concerns were completely ignored.

    However... I can also SEE that there are MANY MANY women out there who have only watched the movies and ARE addicted. It is a concern...

    With regards to "not knowing" the ending, I was TRYING to keep from finding out the damn ending, ha!

    And also, Seriously... Thanks for the additional knowledge about yourself, but this isn't a competition - that's NOT what this is about. I purposefully didn't go into the details of my life for that reason.

    And Tonia... I DID step out of the box quite a bit by watching Twilight. Its just that you're all asking me to step too far out of the box and I just can't, and you're right, I won't.

    So why don't I just drop this? Because I'm not NEARLY as unusual as you think I am. *I'm* OK NOW... NOTICE how quiet this place is. I just put up these last couple of "hot" posts that is finally causing you all to read this stuff.

    It may not seem like it, but literally THOUSANDS of people have crossed paths with this in the past month - and LOOK how quiet it is. That should tell you alot.

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  14. BTW... I'm pretty sure that one of the reasons you're not taking this very seriously is because of the fact that *I* have not read the books - frankly, I'm afraid to, ha! (I REALLY am!)

    However, I've read quite a bit through bits and pieces of them - especially where the baby is concerned.

    AND... This was just another ONE of my many clues about all of this... I DID read through the first 5 chapters of the original Twilight book during my "anxiously reading over the book jackets moments" - I read those before I picked up the next 3 books and discovered the flaw.

    I started reading it, looked up, took a deep breath - and my VERY first thought was, "what a smooth read, this is going to be easy". THIS thought is significant for me, because I have SUCH a hard time reading through an entire book these days because I've allowed my head to become SO screwed up. I have almost NO attention span!

    My second thought was, "Wow, I read through 5 chapters and I didn't hardly notice - STEPHENIE MEYER MUST BE GOOD!" And she IS... That is YET another point of mine.

    She obviously has a talent for writing this stuff... She should have written it as an adult romance novel, not a YA novel. I don't think it would have been nearly as dangerous if it had been directed at us ladies - even if "girls" had gotten ahold of it and fallen in love with it too, at that point.

    Because we would have all had been taking it in from another perspective - we would have been more aware and able to make the decision FOR OURSELVES.

    But girls are so impressionable at that age - you KNOW that. I keep reading over and over again about mothers who were turned onto Twilight by their daughters. We VALUE our daughters opinions (I DON'T have to be a mom to know that), and they were ALREADY hooked BEFORE we knew it and THEN we got hooked - doesn't that cause you any concern?

    If we had given them something worthy to become obsessed over, that would be one thing. Maybe you don't like my opinion, but again... IF the publishing company and/or movie studio had been doing their jobs, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

    And more importantly... SO MANY GIRLS/WOMEN wouldn't be so hung up on this silly story for such lame, irresponsible reasons.

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  15. Catherine, im not trying to make this a competition. I was however trying to make the point that even a person who does have deep emotional scars can read these books (yes I have read the books...all of them) and see that they are just what they are. Do you watch True Blood? Now there is something that I would not want my young daughter, if I had one, to watch or read. Dont get me wrong...I personally am a fan of the show but it definitely is for adults only. I would like to take this opportunity to apologize to you if I came across as judgmental or unsympathetic to your situation, its just that I did get caught up in the stories...I could see myself in place of Bella and get caught up in it to a degree...but when it was over, it was over and fortunately I personally haven't known any girls that ever got any more caught up than I did...when the story was over, it was just over. I really feel like it was a great love story that was not greatly written, but also so completely far fetched that had it not been so sweet, the love and passion that Edward felt for Bella, that it would have just been damn near impossible to read. I truly hope that you find peace and a way to walk away from something that has been so addictive to you. I also hope that you can forgive my rudeness. I really do just feel like the people who have voted on your poll have made a point...good luck to you in your endeavors.

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  16. I'll apologize to you, as well - I know I'm over the top on all of this. But whether you "get" this or not, if I wasn't doing this right now I honestly don't know what I'd be doing right now. I'm really not trying to be a drama queen - ugh! I almost feel like I have no other choice.

    But that's also the reason why I added the option in the poll, "NO - I know there's nothing wrong with Twilight, but..." because I know alot of Twi-hard fans start out sentences that way.

    And if I can make you see that this has all been harmful to so many of us AND you still don't think the ending to Breaking Dawn should have been altered after reading all of this...

    I don't have one problem with respecting your decision. I'm just... ranting because I feel like I'm going to explode every time I stop.

    Thanks for putting up with me. ; >

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  17. Gee Catherine... I wonder why you are divorced. Maybe because you have OCD? I have a 15 year old Daughter who has read all of the books as well as seen all of the movies, and by some MIRACLE, she is not "addicted" to any of it, if anything, after the last book/movie I doubt she would even have the interest to read or see another one. Hmmm... Maybe it's because she is a normal teenage girl and not some mid life crisis nut bar trying to make something out of nothing? Or maybe it's that she has the brains to separate FICTION FROM REALITY!
    Personally, I wonder how much of your life you have wasted on this, and also curious as to what meds you might be on.
    One final note... I only stumbled across this mess of yours because you inserted a link to it in a comments section that had noting to do with Twilight at all, but figured it would be good for a quick laugh if I clicked on it... Boy was I right! Thanks for the chuckle before bedtime...

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  18. What is wrong with this lady? I think she is CRAZY, what writing mistakes dis Stephanie Meyer make that suposedly made it 'addicting' I am not addicted, and I've read all the books, and breaking dawn 15+ times, but I.ly because I liked it, i also read a LOT of Stephen King's books that many times. And what exactly are you trying to change about the ending?

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  19. *did *only also I'm 14 and I started reading twilight in 5th grade

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  20. AGAIN... If you WANT to know "What's wrong with me?" KEEP READING!!!

    You read the books 15ish times and you're FINE? I'm sorry, I do NOT believe you. Besides, you're too young - you're not a mature women to be making this judgement, you're obviously at least a little obsessed.

    That's why this conversation is largely for grownups - although it is certainly not limited to us. I'm just not going to buy a teenager reading the books that many times as being a "normal" thing, sorry...

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  21. Hey Catherine. Love your blog and opinions. It's great to see someone put themselves out there 100% without missing a beat. Hard opinions and a little controversy is great for everyone I think.

    Overall - I agree, the flicks aren't great for our culture as a whole and especially our youth. The undertones and overall message isn't where it needs to be. You concern for the kids is admirable. I think many readers here are missing the point completely.

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BTW, this poll used to contain 508 votes at one point in time. I'm not sure what has happened with losing votes - either Twihards who originally voted realized their votes were incriminating their beloved goddess/amateur author; OR all these accounts have simply been closed over the course of four months for whatever reasons. Doesn't matter, I've got the original 'important' numbers recorded within these posts.

Taking Our Temperature... How are YOU feeling, Twihards? Choose multiple answers as they apply.