firstsight

If you came in from an outside link, scroll down past the link table (so sorry!) to read that specific post. Also, scroll down when you click on blog links in here – many of these top links are elsewhere with no introduction.

This isn’t your typical ‘anti-twilight’ blog… This is yet another email (complete with semi-subtle death threat) from someone asking questions about it that some of you may be asking, yourself. Don’t assume that you know what this blog is about simply because you’ve argued on Stephenie Meyer’s behalf before.

This is the very first post on this blog, from my ‘clueless movie fan’ perspective. It was written on Thanksgiving Day, 2011 – then published in here a few days later, after I could reread it and do some editing. It is hysterically funny and incredibly poignant at the same time – for those of you who can’t see Stephenie Meyer’s amateur sexual fantasy floating around in The Twilight Saga. This post is what those of us who ARE familiar with vampires experienced because of Breaking Dawn’s unbelievable ending; and it may help explain for you why this blog exists. It is where absolutely everything started; and demonstrates my intentions for this blog from the beginning. Believe it or not, they were NOT MEAN.

At first, I didn’t know why things were wrong; I only knew that they were – so I was making excuses for Stephenie Meyer in the beginning, LoL! Really… every single estranged TwiFan that she has, USED to be at least a real semi-fan of hers.

Please be patient. I know that most people who are familiar with this controversy have passionate opinions; but what about the rest of you who are completely clueless? I wrote this so that readers would not have to jump off the page, as much. I recommend reading through once; then going back to read links for more details, later. If you get too angry to keep reading, pause and scroll down to the side link collection. I used to be a clueless person in the world, and then a clueless Twilight Movie Fan for a while, too. You’ll see more about me, below. And please forgive the caps, in places. I don’t see them as shouting as some peeps do. They are simply meant to make those words stand out, and that is all…

This blog is all about the accidental and painful over-obsessions of The Twilight Fanbases
that has CONTINUED with a decade of
worldwide bullying and intentional,
emotionally-harsh attacks
on the hearts & minds of little TwiFangirls (and big ones).

The feelings of obsessed fans are real even if
their obsessions are not - until they drift away.
You all KNOW THIS.

Suicide is the 2nd leading cause of death for 15 - 24 year olds in the US.

These are all REAL issues, to name a few - for MILLIONS of people:
Maladaptive Daydreaming

Absorption

Dissociative Disorder
This one is the worst biggie, and starting
to be considered an EPIDEMIC

Why are the obsessions of young girls important?

Because their feelings are real even if the obsessions are not – until they drift away. Young girls NEED their fairytale ‘escapes’ MUCH MORE than older ones do because they have limited ways to cope with life’s crap (read the comments beneath these neverending, misogynistic tabloid assaults – this one is from January 2016). If you’ve never been forced to endure public high school in the US (or anywhere, probably); or been abused as a child (unfortunately, still a common occurrence) - then of course you can’t possibly relate.

How Did this Blog Change to
Tabloid & Paparazzi Reform

- Yeah, I have some really good reasons beyond
Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson and their Fans
(Although I’m pretty sure they are enough reason at this point.)

Why Do People Hate Bella Swan and Kristen Stewart?
Believe it or not, this is a very easy question to answer;
and NO it isn’t because she ‘cheated’.

TwiNewsflash: The concerning over-obsessions of young women was the ONLY REASON that Breaking Dawn was forgiven when it was published in 2008. The ONLY people who have defended this story for being written ‘just like it is’ because ‘Stephenie Meyer is a literary genius’ are her YOUNG (and young-at-heart) fans who were used by both the amateur author and her publisher because ‘they weren’t supposed to know any better’ about vampires.

And, these are the fans who get hit & hurt the most by world bullying. It is really crappy of SM and you older ladies to continue letting them believe what they believe about these books - while they ignorantly & arrogantly (in their over-obsessions) deal with all the hate surrounding Twilight that still exists in big, dynamic ways.

Email Excerpt: “Thank you for writing that wonderful blog.. it was heaven sent.. Please someone tell him (this is ‘why the cheating scandal started’, Aug 2012). He just texted me and said he told my mom.. and for me to get some help.. and bye.. please tell him… Everyone is doing this and it’s killing me.. but everyone acts like they don’t know what I’m talking about.. I don’t think I’ve ever needed anything so bad in all my life than for someone to tell him.. I know they are trying to drive me crazy.. and it’s starting to work.. thanks again, was truly a blessing I needed to read very much so.”

Another email excerpt that I hear all the time from all types of fans:
“…
I have tried speaking to my good friend about my obsession and, as with all of my friends,
doesn't like Twilight and totally judged me lol so your feedback means a lot.”

How to Soothe an Intense Twilight / Robsessed / Krisbian / Robsten Obsession

Anti-Twilight Fans could SEE what Stephenie Meyer didn’t MEAN to write;
and Erika didn’t MEAN to write her books ignorantly, either.
Adult women have 50 Shades of obsessive fog to get past before
they can possibly begin to think clearly about this subject.

Why does The Twilight Saga have so many anti-fans? Why are there hardly any male fans? How did Twilight’s infamous obsessions become over-obsessions? Why are so many older women more obsessed than younger ones? Why did the fandom fracture into several various fanbases that fight among themselves? How did we get 50 Shades of Grey out of all this commotion?

I recorded four wildly-ranting videos (this one is my favorite – calling SM out, ha!) over three years ago at the height of my own very unwanted Twilight over-obsession (It’s not like you can unwatch or unread something – or reclaim wasted time). At that point, I was really mad about ‘how I was obsessed’ with this pretty fairytale; and I was mad that Stephenie Meyer had ‘accidentally’ done this to so many other people before me - and didn’t correct any of the dysfunction in her books before she made them into movies.

I actually say this in the second video before I had even heard of 50 Shades of Grey... “It sounds to me like Stephenie has some sort of BDSM fetish, but I don’t even sort of want to think about that right now.” (Video #12 is where you will hear me say this.)

And yet, somehow 50 Shades of Grey (this post is what exactly is wrong with fifty shades) exists as Twilight Fanfiction; and is yet another dysfunctional worldwide ‘phenomenon’?! Do you have any idea how disturbing that is? Not only does it make my skin crawl – it’s just wrong.

There are real amateur literary reasons why Twilight messed with so many people’s heads – especially OLDER women; and we are the ones who get called ‘crazy’ for it - unless we manage to write another dysfunctional (XXX!) blockbuster based on all this negligence…

Did you know that Steph’s publisher didn’t want to publish Breaking Dawn? Did you know that New Moon & Eclipse were not supposed to be in between the 1st & last books? Do you ‘get’ that she didn’t mean to cause so many of her OLDER fans to see Edward Cullen the way they came to see him as Christian Grey? Do you understand that these are the reasons why the world has always &STILL bullies Twilight Fans, Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson because of her amateur writing mistakes?

Sick-in-the-head older women had absolutely no right to hijack the pretty fairytale of young girls via Fifty Shades of Grey; and they should care when their daughters are being bullied by the world over it, incessantly.

What’s Wrong with Twilight: Chapter One, First Sight?

The Condensed Version:
The Four Main Complaints of this Blog
against Stephenie Meyer and her ‘professional’ Publishers &
Production Franchise for RARE & irresponsible,
professionally-negligent publishing and movie production.

When the first Twilight movie was being made in 2008; the last book, Breaking Dawn had not been released, yet. Because of this, no one knew at that time that Stephenie Meyer was going to bomb her pretty fairytale into the ground until it was published a few months before the release of the first film.

Extreme chaos & debate surrounded Steph and The Twilight Saga at that time for the exact same reasons that surrounds 50 Shades of Grey - but somehow, she got through it (see side links)...

If 'Midnight Sun' had not been 'accidentally' leaked just prior to the first movie being rushed; AND Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson had not BOTH nailed their parts in that first movie - Twilight would have been history.

Stephenie Meyer could have written any 'ol ending for her infamously overly-obsessed fans (and really, that seems like what she did); and they would have lapped it up like honey (and they did – especially the ones who didn’t know any better, couldn’t see what was wrong – or didn’t care, because of fifty Shades of BEDWARD!!

The entire world has done nothing but treat Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson AND their emotionally-invested fans like sh*t, since - and the infighting among Twilight's divided and HATEFUL fanbases is ongoing.

Despite all this, 'feminists' have embraced the latest and greatest dysfunctional character, Christian Grey/Edward Cullen/Prince Charming...

Popular Email Question: Why does Stephenie Meyer need to apologize? Because the world can’t heal from the wounds she has inflicted on it if she doesn’t acknowledge her amateur mistakes and apologize for them. All she has done from the beginning of her controversies is metaphorically flip off her critics. While normally that is exactly what you are supposed to do… In this case, with all the professional exceptions that were made while The Twilight Saga was being published; the amateur author (AND the publisher AND production franchise) really needed to be listening to fans. It is NOT NORMAL for roughly half of your fanbase (much less, the world!) to become so angry with you regarding a casual creative expression.

I am just using this true stuff about SM’s amateur writing to grab your attention – and boy does it grab some of you, ha! Now if we could just get past that part of things… I really could care less about Stephenie Meyer’s or EL James’ many ignorant and irresponsible amateur literary mistakes that caused all this chaos. Believe it or not, I have stuck up for Stephenie Meyer so many times over this issue, it’s ridiculous.

Creative ‘Freedom of Speech’ is DIFFERENT than the illegal type of ‘Freedom of Speech’ that tabloids & paparazzi hide behind.

Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press were meant to create transparency in order to protect the truth about absolutely everything - not provide a way for mean, greedy tabloid liars to make money off of young (and young-at-heart) fans who are practically defenseless against emotional tabloid & paparazzi assaults (not to mention how even more defenseless Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson are against them)…

This blog now has but one mission: Tabloid & Paparazzi Reform for all celebrities past & present (Princess Diana, anyone?) and it has been that since July 25, 2012 – the day after the infamous cheating scandal. Oh yeah, I’ve been on their stinky tails from the beginning. It hasn’t even been SORT of fun! I really hope we can all manage to put aside our differences and unite to stick it to them, someday. Tabloids & papz so deserve it!!

I don’t care how long it takes. Aside from having really good reasons other than Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson to be concerned for celebrity rights; we fans – no matter which side of the ring we fight on – are getting awfully tired of being manipulated and watching our favorite celebrities being harassed. So many of you do not ‘get’ this; but Robert Pattinson is being attacked and/or used as much as Kristen Stewart in these kinds of stories – no matter ‘how nice’ they seem to be slanted toward him, at times. It is just another way to pour salt on the wounds of their fans by being misogynistic toward both them and Kristen at the same time – using Robert and her anti-fans against their will!!

This is because the world has no respect for Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson or Twilight fans – any version of them; BECAUSE of Stephenie Meyer’s offensive & insulting amateur writing (another reason why she needs to apologize). To the rest of the world, we’re all simply hysterical to bully; just another section of the populace to be targeted and made fun of for profits – via outright assaults and numerous lie upon lie that continues

Boycott all online and print tabloids until they volunteer to reform.

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Why Do So Many People Hate Kristen Stewart and/or Bella Swan?
or Why/How did so many of Stephenie Meyer’s OLDER fans become so
‘accidentally’ overly-obsessed with the character of Edward Cullen?
Shortest and most anti-fan & fan-variation-inclusive version that I have written, yet!!
Read it only if you dare… and only if you can be HONEST. ;)

Whatever Happened to the ‘Anti-Twilight Army’
from 2008-2009; and WHY don’t you see their support on this blog?

Stephenie Meyer Knows Why Gossip Rags & Paparazzi won’t leave
Robert Pattinson, Kristen Stewart (or her beloved fans) alone.

That’s why she deserves this blog; and it is why it will not be deleted until either
Steph, her professional cronies and/or her fans do something to fix the situation:

‘They took all of my heat, which I feel bad about,' Stephenie
tells The Times Magazine. ‘If they had the choice, I've no idea if

they'd even do Twilight again. I just don't know.
I think this has all come at a heavy price.'

Ya think, Steph?!!

Robert Pattinson’s Career-Hindering Rover Smear
Based on the Whole Wide World’s Twilight Saga Hate

This movie FLOPPED amidst RARE (for him) GLOWING reviews from movie critics at
film festivals who compared his performance to Leo DiCaprio’s Oscar-Nominated
performance in ‘What’s Eating Gilbert Grape’. Yeah, it’s a HUGE deal!!
This movie would not have tanked without way too much ‘help’ from
tabloid manipulation of Twilight’s huge numbers of anti-fans.

Why the Public Shaming of Kristen Stewart MATTERS to Young Girls
by Nico Lang on Huffington Post

Here’s a splash from Nico’s article: "Trampire:" Why the Public Slut Shaming of Kristen Stewart Matters for Young Women “I don't care if Kristen Stewart and Rupert Sanders did it in a car, in a bar, in a house or with a mouse. But while I might not be concerned for K-Stew, I am concerned for my younger stepsister who idolizes and worships her....” And this is an update from Nico on Salon: Racist 'Twilight' fans won't stop harassing Robert Pattinson's girlfriend, FKA Twigs

Yeah, Twilight’s still-many hateful and overly-obsessed
fans managed to p*ss all over the debut of the proclaimed

Celebrity Rookie of the Year 2014

Aren’t we sweet?

COMMENTS from the WORLD

RobnKris

RobnKris

I have had some really good compliments on my corrective-rewrite of The Twilight Saga from both literary experts and Twilight Fans. It is only a summary, with just the first chapter written as complete to give it the foundation that it should have had (takes 2-3 hours for me to read through it all).

Here is one positive review (sorry, have to scroll down to the comments on this post after the click to read): “I have so very many things to say where to start..... Firstly I love your blog and the rewrite, I felt like you have given the characters depth and a new life. If I were a judge I would totally give you custody! … I am even letting my daughter read it with me because its a good story that is appropriate for kids to read and she LOVES LOVES LOVES IT! Just as much as I do! I think what you have written is loving and responsible to the characters and fans, it is well though out, relevant, and…”

BELIEVE me when I say, I would have MUCH RATHER have LOVED Stephenie Meyer's original Twilight Saga all the way to the bittersweet end. There are not many people on this planet who would have been more PROUD and applauding the loudest for a woman (amateur or not) to have written such a hailed TwiMasterpiece - if Stephenie Meyer had actually done that instead of the embarrassing, barely-edited rough-draft that we got.

This corrective re-write summary is actually very forgiving in many places - at least, where Steph is concerned. I'm sure my anger toward these IRRESPONSIBLE "professional" companies will continue to burn for much longer.

I gave your beautiful fairytale a hell of a shot, sinking MONTHS of my time JUST into researching this subject. (Not counting the months before that when you all had me convinced that it was a WORTHY diversion, ha!)

Between these blogs and the rewrite I have probably written as much as either Steph or Erika have; and I certainly put a lot more thought and creativity (not to mention, knowledge) into it. Just insert either author’s purple prose where applicable while you’re reading, since I didn’t write any – and it is darn near perfect, ha! ;)

As such, you can expect my version of The Twilight Saga to not be XXX. I rewrote Twilight by sticking to the storyline; but I made it believable – really, that was possible. In fact, now that Twilight can be shown as a believable story - it is no longer necessary for Anti-Twilight peeps to continue bullying Twilight Fans just because SM didn’t ‘get’ why she needed to make it believable.

WHY did I take the time to flesh out the character of Bella Swan and Twilight’s vampire (and wolf) storylines? BECAUSE VERY FEW OF YOU OLDER LADIES GIVES A SHIT ABOUT HER (and more importantly, the real Human girl, Kristen Stewart and her millions of young fans) - or ANY of the other Twilight characters, for that matter!

It's EDWARD this and EDWARD that (and sometimes Jacob) - Stephenie BARELY INTRODUCED you to her before you all got hooked on this crap. That's why you can pass this story off, you don't care... You're obsessed about Edward Cullen and could care less about any other character. IF this story had been published for you perverted older brats- Yeah, it would maybe be Ok!

I am NOT talking about you young girls if you're in here reading this - I've heard you talk about Bella and all the other characters. I KNOW you both know and love them, dearly. BUT, those of you who WERE NOT debunked by this storyline (no matter what your age was) SEE these characters differently than so many MORE older ladies do!

Believe it or NOT - Stephenie Meyer and the rest of these women out here (I don't care HOW many of them there are against my ONE voice) are BEING BAD, LoL!

IF we were in college... And the instructor had just given us an assignment to write the first chapter for a novel. IF Stephenie Meyer was a college literary student (which she has been - in FACT, she graduated!); she would probably NOT have gotten an "A" on the first chapter of Twilight - I seriously doubt. I wish a few good English teachers who haven't read the books yet would go through it and grade it - just so we would know, for sure.

I'm not saying that *my* version is a literary marvel - but I have a really good excuse. I have NEVER taken a college writing course much less graduated with a literary degree. If this isn't perfect... Yeah, I know. :)

We make our children do their homework - and dot their "I's" and cross their "T's" - but, WHY didn't this grown adult woman have to?!

I'm going to make you all CARE about Bella and her life, as well as every other character surrounding her - INCLUDING EDWARD - who, it seems to me; you've all just taken under the covers with you to have your way with him like Stephenie Meyer was no doubt doing when she WROTE this stupid saga so ignorantly and irresponsibly...

So when it really comes down to it... YOU robsessed ‘fans’ DON'T even care about Robert Pattinson/Edward Cullen, just your sick little "escape"!

The young adult audience that this story was TARGETED FOR - deserved a whole hell of alot better than what they got. THAT is why I rewrote The Twilight Saga... For ALL THOSE former fans who were debunked by Breaking Dawn after it was published; and then abandoned by the arrogant amateur author afterwards.

We KNEW better... and we were EXPECTING better.

AND it IS ALSO for the rest of you... I DARE you; I quadroople-doople DARE you - READ this and tell me you don't care a lot more about Bella at the end of this Chapter One: First Sight rewrite than you did at the end of Stephenie's first one.

You can think whatever you want to about me... But with this, the two things you CAN'T say about me are that *I* don't LOVE this pretty fairytale OR this fanbase.

Yeah, you be the judge – please.

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This is a Summary List of Links for this Blog – More Links Galore Within Them!!

Most Popular Keyword Searches
into this blog

The TwiSmears

The Twilight Saga

Stephenie Meyer

The Fanbases


Why the ‘Cheating’ Scandal Started; Telling on My Big TwiSisters (Aug 2012, 1 mo. After)

Nothing but LOVE for
our Twilight Character
Actors & Actresses
- THANK YOU!

An Anti-Twilight Fan's Dream Talk with SM

Twihards - We Movie Fans
Deserve a Discussion


July 2012 'Cheating' Scandal

What actually happened
to Kristen Stewart with Rupert Sanders that day? Why did robsten really break up?

Why is Twilight so Addictive? How Did it Inspire 50 Shades of Grey?

Questions for Steph:
Twilight, a Post-Mortem

Defining Twilight's
Various Fanbases
…In which I actually
stick up for
Stephenie Meyer, OMG!


Additional & Extended Scandal Timelines

- WAY more info than you want; but some peeps just can’t get enough. ;)

What's Wrong with Twilight Chapter
One: First Sight
?

1st Original Blog Post
- How Can You See
Steph's Sexual Fantasy
Glaring thru Twilight
?


Letter to My Little Twilight Sisters – Why I Keep Picking on Twilight.

Pre-Cheating Scandal Smears that have been going on since 2008.

Twilight: Breaking Dawn Parts 1 & 2 Movie Reviews
- easiest to see literary dysfunctions


Ramifications of Wrong Writing in the Case of Twilight Addictions
Whatever happened to the Anti-Twilight Army?


Letter to My Big Twilight Sisters – Are You SURE Breaking Dawn is Okay?


Fan & Anti-Fan Hate-Debate; December 2014
- Fans reveal how harmful tabloids have been via online article comments.


Official Reasoning for
Every Little Thing
Wrong with Twilight


The Most Common Keyword Searches into these blogs
:
HELP with a Twilight Obsession; Immortalicum & ‘Demonic Messages’?!


Why are so Many OLDER
Fans so sick
?


What Have Heartbroken Fans Been Saying
Since the Scandal in July 2012?


What EXACTLY is Wrong with Stephenie Meyer’s Sparkling ‘Vampires’?
- Written BEFORE I watched her movies.


What a JOKE!
Twilight is Coming to Facebook Because ‘the voices of women are important to Steph’!!


What Does Robert Pattinson Think About His OLDER ‘robsessed’ Twihard & Anti-Twilight ‘Fans’, BOTH?

What Have Mean Fans Been Saying Since the Scandal in July 2012?

YouTube Video Collection
'What's Wrong with The Twilight Saga'
?


Final Judgment of
The Twilight Saga
Or, Why I HATE (omg!) SM and Her ARMY of Desperate Housewives – et all TwiJerks & Anti-TwiJerks Over 30.


Help Easing a Stubborn
Twilight and/or Robsten
Obsession

Robert Pattinson's Post-Scandal Career Hindering Rover Smear
- Based on the Wide World’s Twilight Hate

Fanfiction Corrective Rewrite Summary (2+ hours) Edward Cullen
Explains His Pretty
Vampire Sparkles
,
believable ending
and MORE!


Let’s Talk About ‘Midnight Sun’
and how Steph Could POSSIBLY Make Her Huge Literary Failure up to The World.

Who am I?

9/1/15

Blog Summary & Introduction: The Harmful Affects of The Twilight Saga on Young Women, and Why Older Women Don't Care

"To further paraphrase the raw feeling of Miss Lewis’s international smash hit: This series has cut open my friend and her fellow so-called Twi-hards. They keep bleeding, keep, keep bleeding love. Now that’s it’s over, they don’t need Kleenex. They need tourniquets." Source

The question of ‘what’s wrong with Twilight obsessions’ is moot, now – we’ve all seen the damaging affects Stephenie Meyer’s bad writing has had on our world in dynamic ways for a whole decade, now. Why grown, adult women continue to brush this stuff off can only be explained by their own obsessions with either The Twilight Saga, 50 Shades of Grey – and often, both.

In any case, the argument that people’s minds are untouchable via books, movies and/or tabloid drama is also ridiculously moot. It is why tabloids and ‘marketing’ in particular are such big business. People’s minds are easily manipulated – easy, easy, easy. No one is immune to it. No more playing dumb…

Do you ‘get’ that Stephenie Meyer didn’t MEAN for her character of Edward Cullen to be seen the way that so many older women, like EL James, came to see him? Only an amateur author who was not held to standards by her ‘professional’ publishers and editors could have accomplished that.

Do we really want to go through more YEARS of the world ripping these 50 Shades of Grey movies and their fans to shreds (as it has done - and continues to do - to Twilight Fans)? As many people have pointed out, that kind of behavior has been MORE misogynistic than the movie, itself. If you want the hate to end, then start treating these books & movies like professionals should have a long time ago.

Really, we women CAN be professionals; and both of these series’ could have been really AMAZING stories if the women who developed these storylines into movies had allowed for that kind of treatment. I mean, if this kind of harmful storytelling is what ‘feminists’ bring into the world – why should we pay women any better than men; and WHY should we ‘give them the helm’ in directing movies?

Anti-Twilight Fans could SEE what Stephenie Meyer didn’t MEAN to write; and I’m SURE Erika didn’t MEAN to write this book this way, either. From her point of view and many others – it’s perfect; just like Twilight was for Steph.

But, when you publish a book and produce it into a movie; you are doing it for a world audience and no longer for yourself. You have too many YOUNG (and older naïve!) fans mixed into your fanbase; and your fanbase is HUGE. Please, Erika - FIX the things about the story that are not right so that fans can SEE the difference between the abuse that is currently happening on the screen and how people SHOULD be treated in such compromising & vulnerable situations. If that sounds confusing, I explain it to you thoroughly, here. Its not like any of this is rocket science.

I’m left wondering yet again... WHERE are the ‘professionals’? I think a couple of them just left!

Btw, there is a petition against misogynistic abuse at the end of this intro; but it isn’t for either Stephenie Meyer or EL James. This blog IS written by a feminist who actually gives a sh*t beyond the silly sexual fantasies of desperate older women.

Here is how to contact EL James via email
- Let her know that you would like her to
reconsider how the next two movies come out.
Teaching & learning is better than burying these mistakes.


Actually, I would like to know what both of those rejections
 said... It's been ten years. When can the truth about
 The Twilight Saga finally come out without
 venomous fanbase infighting? 50 Shades of Grey
 isn't enough reason to acknowledge it?
Update 3/16/15 – Wow, I guess Twilight & Anti-Twilight fans are not ready to talk about the very real, obvious and many literary mistakes that brought us this sparkling, hate-stirring fairytale. Since I’ve put this latest ‘incriminating’ photo of Steph’s saga from her website up – you’re leaving even faster than after I put the semi-innocent ‘cheating’ photo of Kristen up here. In fact, this blog is practically stalled. That’s Okay, it’s not like anything is going to change. Maybe you’ll be ready for it on Twilight’s Twentieth Anniversary.

As a Twilight Movie Fan who has every right to be very angry about this stuff ‘after the fact’ – you should all be grateful that I’m not screaming for Stephenie Meyer’s head on a platter, ha! All *I* want is for the paparazzi & tabloids to be dealt with because they’ve been nothing but misogynistic jerks to our girls for long enough. I will be happy to delete this ugly blog if we can manage to unite to do that. I actually have no more of an interest in acknowledging Stephenie Meyer than she does with me. The indifference is very mutual.

I’m just using this TRUE stuff about both her & EL James’ books to get the world’s attention.

If you ladies must embrace 50 Shades of Grey, fine… But STOP claiming it to be feminist, ‘just like the guys’ stuff; and that consent makes everything Okay – because those things are simply not true. Romantic rape is abuse – as much as it would have been for Edward to ‘seduce’ Bella with his supernatural vampire abilities. Be careful out there, girls… It can be really hard to distinguish between a real, non-abusive, natural dominant / alpha-male; and a dangerous, sexually-aggressive jerk like Mr. Grey. There IS a difference between them. They don’t have to ‘be into’ BDSM – and they’re usually a lot more fun and certainly safer than Master G. ;)

Update 3/14/15 - Since I put this photo up of Kristen Stewart (bottom now) – the majority of you are leaving (after I started complaining about all the hate emails). Why? It has made this intro even longer and interrupted the 50 Shades of Grey stuff. If your hate for Kristen Stewart is that volatile after all this time – especially where her semi-innocence may be concerned - you should probably be talking to a therapist about your bitter obsession. Ask yourself why you want her to be guilty of this most cardinal sin (for women). Come on, NONE of you actually KNOW Kristen Stewart beyond tabloid manipulation.

Why Do People Hate Bella Swan and Kristen Stewart?
Believe it or not, this is a very easy question to answer…

August 2012, one month after the ‘cheating’ scandal started; and yes, I still receive emails like this“…Thank you for writing that wonderful blog.. it was heaven sent. …Please someone tell him. He just texted me and said he told my mom..and for me to get some help..and bye..please tell him..everyone is doing this and its killing me..but everybody acts like they don’t know what im talking about..I think I may have never needed anything so bad in all of my life than for somebody to tell him..I know they are trying to drive me crazy..and its starting to work… thanks again, was truly a blessing I needed to read..very much so :)”

This is the post she was talking about incidentally, the very first post where I connected 50 Shades with Twilight. If you’re wondering WHY a fan of ‘robsten’ would say such nice things to me – again, she isn’t the only one – it’s because I did a lot of ‘forgiving’ and ‘explaining’ about what was ACTUALLY going on at the beginning of the ‘cheating’ scandal. Yeah, I was one of those strange people who was feeling really sorry for Twilight’s hurting fangirlz.

So many of you are not allowing yourself to ‘get’ this; but this is what this blog is about at the heart of it: Julianne Moore, recent interview excerpt - “Women are fabulous. I like our camaraderie, our similarities, how we collaborate,” Moore says, adding that her daughter helped put that into perspective. “When my daughter was born, I looked at her in the bassinet and I said, ‘You’re one of us.’ I’m going to cry if I think about it too much. I had this little girl and was like, ‘Yup. You’re one of us."

Young girls are ‘one of us’ – whether they are famous or fans of someone who is famous; and it is our duty to protect them. ‘Hate’ shouldn’t even come into play…

Why are the obsessions of young girls important? Because their feelings are real even if the obsessions are not – until they drift away. Young girls need their fairytale ‘escapes’ MUCH MORE than older ones do because they have limited ways to cope with life’s crap (the latest, torturous lies coming out of Hollywood’s gossip rags). If you’ve never been forced to endure public high school in the US (or anywhere, probably); or been abused as a child (unfortunately, still a common occurrence) - then of course you can’t possibly relate.

This is the most confusing thing for the majority of you:How can I be ‘anti-twilight’ – and yet be sticking up for young and
young-at-heart Twilight Fans? Again, just think of me as maybe being
a bit like Rosalie: I don’t have a problem with anyone’s choice of ‘groom’.
I have a problem with grown women being allowed to toy with people’s minds;
and all the worldwide hate & bullying that has developed because of it.
The reason why most of you won’t actually read through this intro
(like you claim to) is because of either Stephenie Meyer or EL James.
That doesn’t exactly give me a reason to not be angry with them.

Believe it or not, these deep divisions shouldn’t even exist.
And if these books had been 
edited & published responsibly, they wouldn’t.
Yeah, this is the crux of what makes me angry.

How many times have you seen fans of all ages defend
The Twilight Saga, Stephenie Meyer or their favorite characters?
No one should have had to defend anyone.
We ALL should have all received a good story to begin with.

The Twilight Saga was forgivable because it was supposedly written for young girls who weren’t supposed to know any better about real-make-believe Vampires. But, I see absolutely no reason to excuse Fifty Shades of Grey. I actually find the nerve of someone publishing ‘fanfiction’ books like this after all the twilight controversy to be appalling; but I’m willing to bet that EL James was ‘too into’ writing out her obsessive Edward & Bella fantasy to be paying much attention to it. I’ve never read 50 Shades of Grey and I have absolutely no desire to. But, I believe every fan who claims it to be toe-curling and mind-boggling. I also believed you all for a while about Twilight too – until I figured out (too late) otherwise, LoL! (That’s actually why I won’t read (or research) 50 Shades of Grey any more than I already have - because I don’t want to develop a ‘hate’ for it. ;)

But no… It’s just so wrong, and it only proves ‘what was wrong with Twilight’. Frankly, there are a few lessons in here that we should probably all be re-learning. Including me – if you think any of this has been fun - not.

Blog Conclusion: Fanfiction writing is a completely different type of writing than professionally published manuscripts – that’s why it has it’s own special place in the world; and that’s where both The Twilight Saga and 50 Shades of Grey should have stayed. (OR, they also could have been taken seriously and ‘treated’ by professionals in such a way for them to have been much less harmful on young – and moreso older - blossoming minds).

Writing is a time-honored profession with rules that are in place for a reason. When those rules are not understood by amateur writers; and go unedited & uncorrected by ‘professional’ publishers – things like Twilight & 50 Shades of Grey happen. Hopefully, with what the world & publishing companies have learned from these glaring literary mistakes – they won’t happen again. (That’s why they’ve never happened like this before, not because Stephenie Meyer or EL James were brilliant writers. No other ‘professional’ publisher would ever have published any of these seven books with such obvious & profound negligence intact.)

~ Catherine, Blog Author – auntmisfitchick@gmail.com
I’ve been researching & writing about Stephenie Meyer’s amateur literary mistakes for a lot longer than it took for her to write them out. I’m sure I know more about her books, characters, movies & storyline than she does. I’m ‘one of you’, ladies… And only someone who used to love Twilight can tell you what is actually wrong with it. And probably only someone who is familiar with both Vampires & BDSM can tell you what is wrong with 50 Shades of Grey, also. For one, knowledge is power – not consent.


Forget about the porn. I know it isn’t easy to see your favorite authors ‘corrected’ like this; but it isn’t like any of this stuff isn’t true. Fictional worlds DO have rules & logic within them – without those things, the ‘made-up world’ wouldn’t be believable; and that is the main issue with both of these series’, they aren’t believable – which makes them accidentally-erroneous, insulting and offensive (and in the case of Fifty Shades, also dangerous).

That’s why people are ‘concerned’ about them and their fans get made fun of.

Here’s a splash from the 50 Shades of Grey commentary post (I just moved this to make this intro shorter) Maybe this will help you push through this information because it is important. And, I have many other good reasons beyond this to be upset:

If you’re a longtime vampire fangirl who knows better - watching Christian Grey up on the screen… We’re basically watching EL James’ version of ‘what she wanted Edward to be doing to Bella’ in Twilight. But, NOT EVEN Edward would have been acting like this toward Bella – UNLESS he was being written as a ‘real’ make-believe EVIL Vampire (which, he wasn’t – intentionally ignorantly – but if you know even just a little bit more about them than Stephenie did – VOILἏ, ’50 Shades of Grey’. Have you ever heard a Twilight-hater refer to it as a story about ‘romantic rape’? Yeah, there IS a connection.)

Romantic rape is abuse – and is essentially the Human equivalent of a real-make-believe Vampire ‘seduction’. Vampires are well-known to be able to look you in the eye and turn your brain into a seductive state of intoxication – leaving their prey practically defenseless and begging to be bitten. Except most Vampires wouldn’t usually go for sex, with modern exceptions; because part of their original mystical lore is that ‘The Feed’ IS SEX for them.

(This link goes to a hysterical YouTube video that makes that point easy to see. From Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Spike, the Vampire is looking for Buffy to kill her - of course. But, he has just escaped from a government facility that he didn't realize put a computer chip in his head that sends searing pain into his brain when he tries to feed off of a living thing - in this case, the sweet and recently-heartbroken Willow, Buffy's BFF and college roommate. Most of you could probably use a humor-break right about now - here it is. This video also demonstrates how ‘rough’ pre-twilight vamp fangirlz viewed Vampires. ;)

POIGNANT POINT: There are other reasons why this movie is harmful; but this is the main reason why 50 Shades of Grey is SO hurtful to survivors of abuse – you see MANY articles & comments out in Internetland dissing this movie that have been written by survivors of abuse; and this is why: TRIGGERS. It reminds us of things we really REALLY do NOT want to remember… And we really (really!) do not want anyone else to get hurt like that. The majority of protestors (not all) are NOT just ‘trying to be mean’.

The Twilight Saga wasn’t ‘quite’ as harmful – aside from the affect the shallow characters & storyline had on fans like Erika and so many other older ladies (yeah, like me, too): Because Edward Cullen supposedly LOVES Bella Swan… Which is why (no doubt) Stephenie went to so many great lengths to bury her (probably much more tame) sexual fantasy with all that extra writing in her LONG four books – so that (most) people couldn’t see all the sex hidden between the lines. BUT, isn’t Edward Cullen kind of ‘dominant’ and intoxicating in some very seductive ways?

Incidentally, this is also the reason why The Twilight Saga ended up with so many ‘Anti-Fans’ – because it ‘turned people off’ in various ways (you didn’t need to be a ‘survivor’ to be offended by it); while for others who were often more clueless about real make-believe vampires (or who decided to embrace it despite their knowledge), it ‘turned them overly-on’, ha!
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Update 2/15/15 – Nah, I haven’t always been a big meanie… This ‘Anti-Twilight’ MOVIE fan blog took a two year hiatus, called a TRUCE, and became a ‘Hollywood Tabloid & Paparazzi Reform’ blog before swinging back around to the original cause of ALL the world’s collective TwiHATE, Stephenie Meyer – in January of this year. I even offered to delete everything I’ve ever written, recorded or published about this subject if Twilight & Anti-Twilight Fans (along with the rest of the world) could unite. Turns out that isn’t possible. Here’s a nostalgic reminder if you’re interested – SCROLL DOWN past the slideshow to read after the click:

How Did this Blog Change to
Tabloid & Paparazzi Reform

- Yeah, I have some really good reasons beyond
Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson and their Fans
(Although I’m pretty sure they are enough reason at this point.)

For the longest time, there were VERY FEW young girls that came through here compared to older girls – probably one out of every half a dozen emails were from girls. Most young fangirls were still ‘into’ the actual story of Twilight. In fact, most of them were/are still doing things like creating Edward & Bella digital photo montages. (Which is of course exactly what they should be doing.)

HOWEVER, since the stories of Robert Pattinson dating FKA Twigs (scroll down to read comments on stuff like this) started coming out around September – young girls are starting to come out of the woodwork A LOT more because the majority of them are Edward & Bella ‘robsten’ fans who have been ‘keeping the faith’ about them still being together ALL THIS TIME. Many younger fans and older non-vamp fans are SERIOUS ‘robsten’ fans; because they are the ones most-likely to have this pretty fairytale in their heads EXACTLY HOW STEPHENIE MEYER WROTE IT. Edward & Bella FOREVER! ;)

Many of these fans have basically been making up their own ‘tabloid-type’ stories about Kris and Rob; and ignoring all the other rumors up until now - because they thought they were sure about ‘the truth about them’. (HKN Haven baby conspiracy blog is one example of this - believe it or not, this has been the MOST popular keyword search into here, and THE most popular post since December. If you know an obsessed Twilight Fan of ANY age – check in with them.) Now that ‘reality’ has come into play with Robert dating someone else… There are more heartbroken young girls coming through here; AND you are seeing more of their comments & opinions out in Internetland – whereas before, the majority of comments beneath online articles were from older fangirls.

Twilight probably used to have only ONE fanbase, but it fractured into a few different kinds – VERY unusual for ANY kind of ‘fandom’ to do that. Have you ever heard of any other fanbases doing that? Not only that, but fans are disjointed from the world, itself - by gender & age (age because many older fangirls see twilight 50 Shades of Grey differently than young girls do). These things are just more examples of ‘bad’ things that came out of Twilight.

Btw, it is UTTERLY AMAZING how the tabloids & paparazzi have seriously died down around Rob & Kris just since 50 Shades of Grey came out. One can only guess why they are SUDDENLY almost gone. Not to worry, I capture LOTS of stuff. This post is from December and contains TWELVE of the MOST awful bs that we had to put up with, to date. Tabloids were trying to give their fans Twelve Days of a Merry Christmas, I guess. Here’s a short list:


Here’s a ‘fan’ complaining about the lack of reporting about them, now:

Rossi Posted at 4:36 PM on February 15, 2015
Where ARE the paps??!! All the media swirl of late has been around Fifty Shades of Grey and Robs friend who plays Grey. OR, Alicia and Kristan going for yet another coffee! Doesn’t anyone find it just a MIGHT interesting that there has been NO gossip or pics about Rob and FKA Twigs for quite awhile now?. I know she’s down under…I mean Down Under in Aussie land. However, not a peep have we heard from either of them about each other. Is this a cooling off period for them??? Let’s face it, way too much NOTHING happening out there for something not to be in the “missing” category…

The MAIN REASON why younger girls are coming in here is because THEY are doing searches about their beloved celebrities and what’s going on with them. Most of them are pretty mad about all the tabloid crap like me. And since I’m writing about them up here, I can tell you that EVERY SINGLE YOUNG FAN who has written to me - and MANY older non-hater ones, also (you wouldn’t believe how many older hater-hags have accused me of having a crush on Kristen Stewart, ha!) - would LOVE for the world to hear this message:

LEAVE KRISTEN STEWART & ROBERT PATTINSON ALONE!!!!!

I haven’t received NEARLY as much hate mail OR surprise about the information on this blog from younger fans as older ones. Young girls WANT to know EVERYTHING about their favorite fairytales; and have already done all this research I have in here in their own ways – and made their own decisions surrounding it. Older women are a lot more clueless about it, especially movie fans; simply because we weren’t as interested in the details – and who has time, ha!

Many of them have been arguing on one side or the other for years – along with the know-it-all older girls. Yeah, there are lots of Twilight AND Anti-Twilight fans BOTH among young girls. They FIGHT about this mess among themselves as much as grown-ups do – it is NORMAL to most of them by now. Talk about a cultural disfigurement. It’s been amazing to me… I’d say they are divided about in half(whereas older girls have heavy concentrations of Anti-Twilight fans especially in the ‘robsessed’ portion of the fanbase).


This is even better… Collected fan & anti-fan comments during
Robert Pattinson’s birthday last year (and OMG, it’s coming up again
in May! Kristen’s is in April, but who really cares about HER, right?!)
Robert Pattinson’s 2014 Birthday Wishes from Fans & Anti-Fans

This post rarely gets hit. I guess peeps could care less about
still heartbroken fans after all this time.

What are Mean Fans still saying?
This post gets LOTS of hits and then you LEAVE.
There are two ‘death threats’ I have captured in here
- one for Kristen and one more recent for FKA Twigs.
They have BOTH had MANY others.
Do you think tabloids should be able to leave harsh
things like death threats within audience comments?

What did Kristen Stewart do that was SO BAD – that Bella didn’t do to Edward with Jacob? As I recall… Edward forgave her back then, too. ;)

If you are among fellow Twihards - YEAH, you are MORE than HAPPY to acknowledge your Twilight addiction. It's a bonding thing! But, let someone point out how bad and/or damaging Twilight is... THEN, it's "NO WAY, Twilight is HARMLESS, it's JUST a STORY that doesn't hurt ANYBODY!" (Kristen, Robert and their MILLIONS of FANS are NOT people?!) Kristen did NOT have sex with Rupert Sanders; and NEITHER were those photos 'faked'. Tabloids twisted the story (and those images) to make so many of you believe one or the other of these TWO things because anything less than a 'cheating' scandal OR a silly conspiracy theory would have been OFF LIMITS as a way for the misogynistic smears to continue.

As long as there is NO REAL BLOOD gushing out of a flesh wound, they are all FINE, right?!!

Mean, judgmental people have not been making things easy for their fans… But Rob & Kris DIDN’T split because she ‘cheated’. Kristen referred to the situation as a ‘momentary indiscretion’ when it happened; and Robert reunited with her SOON afterwards because that’s ALL it was.

Kristen apologized to absolutely everyone TWICE – the first time was in her original public apology when she added the words, “and everyone this has affected”. NO ONE manipulated Robert into going back to her. He went back because HE was as MUCH as in LOVE with her as she was with HIM; and they were BOTH in PAIN.

Everything that has happened to them with this situation has been normal – with the exception of the tabloids twisting the story so misogynistically to have made so many obsessed fans SICKER than they already were.

Neither Kristen nor Robert are blameless as much as any fan would like them to be – and neither have they deserved all the hate.

They split for REAL mid-May 2013 after the tabloids & paparazzi continued to hound them incessantly – remember the ‘trial separation’ smear, ‘Valetgate’ and the ‘Rob cheating with Katy Perry’ rumors? (Yeah, those have been proven – all the way around – as tabloid rumors-lies.)

THAT is why they split – NOT because Kristen cheated on Robert, or because he was cheating with Katy. Until fans start realizing the truth about what tabloids did to twist these stories; and STOP trying to blame them both for things they NEVER DID – you’ll always hate them and each other.

The Truth About ‘Robsten’
Cheating Scandal & Fake Photos DEBUNKED Here

We girls of the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s never had to go through ANYTHING like the cruel & intentional emotionally-harsh obsession-bashing that has been going on with Hollywood’s tabloids & Twilight fans for years – and in the extreme for the past 2.5 years. Gossip rags have been INTENTIONALLY assaulting fans, NOT ‘entertaining’ them – for money.

Yeah, I have a HUGE problem with that.

Who am I?

I’m an Anti-Twilight MOVIE (not book) fanlady over 40 who RESEARCHED how Twilight was written & published because I KNOW better and have higher standards. It is not even SORT of a mystery to people like me - how EL James came up with 50 Shades of Grey from Twilight. Keep reading, I’ll explain it to you in DETAIL. ;)

I’m a long-standing Sci-Fi, Mystical, Superhero Fangirl - so dammit, I apparently knew more about vampires than your average ‘Buffy’ fan did. I’m NOT apologizing for that.

I’m also a survivor of ALL KINDS of childhood abuse. None of you have any idea how offensive these STUPID books are to people like me. Don’t tell me that I don’t know what I’m talking about in here – OR that I’m crazy. This is the MOST SANE I’ve ever been in my life, and it hasn’t been ANY fun AT ALL.

Reminder: The ‘Cheating’ Scandal Happened on July 24th, 2012

Published on Jan 3, 2015 – Tabloid Video - Kristen Stewart:
"Get the F*CK OUT of my face!" Faces free lesbian dating site rumors!

- Always check out the audience comments when viewing articles & videos if they are available.

This is the ‘description’ of this video: How did kristen stewart become an actress? An autograph hound asks Kristen Stewart to sign a Twilight photo showing her and ex-boyfriend Robert Pattinson together, and Kristen curses the guy out with an f-bomb. It's been years since Rob had any Kristen Stewart teeth marks. Some reports online have said recently that Kristen met her girlfriend on a free online lesbian dating site, and Kristen has been an unspoken supporter of the gay and lesbian community. Do you think lesbian meeting sites are a great place to meet online singles? (Video Courtesy: Splash News AKA Paparazzi *ssholes)

I had a recent petition here for Stephenie Meyer since she is the original
cause of all this mess; but apparently, she is completely
untouchable as far as everyone is concerned. And,
I’ve had too many of her fans request that I remove it.
So, I am… I guess I’ll just continue to despise & resent her
for her frustrating and irresponsible silence.
Apparently, she doesn’t think she owes her Twilight Movie Fans – who
launched her greedy franchise into such a phenomenal orbit - a damn thing.

Here’s the old petition for the tabloids if you want to do
something to help Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson and their fans.
And again, someone else is welcome to rewrite and/or host it.
Sign the petition for Hollywood tabloid & paparazzi reform
If nothing else, peek in here and check out our new theme song.
Some Fangirl should make us a video out of it, ha! ;)

COMMENTS from the WORLD

Update 2/12/15 - Dang, I am frustrated with ‘crazy’ accusations… I’ve almost published this blog into a ‘real book’ THREE different times over the past year and a half. I’ve been offered thousands of dollars to publish it by a major publishing house – not a ‘fanfiction’ outlet; and I’ve been told that it is brilliant deductive reasoning by literary EXPERTS (one, was especially impressed with my critique and summary correction of the Twilight storyline. Actually, many people have been impressed with it including Twilight Fans.)… No, that doesn’t mean that this blog is currently at a writing standard to be professionally published. Previous publishing discussions included obtaining interviews with professional literary experts along with child psychologists and ‘obsession experts’ to bring a lot more validation to the information on this blog.

This is a BLOG – it’s not a published work. I had good reasons for NOT publishing it. I simply don’t want to hurt anymore ACTUAL Twilight Fans than I have to in getting this message out – especially young ones. (For instance, I don’t troll fansites for the same reason – usually, but especially not with 50 Shades. Tabloid stories where mostly grown-ups hang out is where you see my rants.) Here is the original post where I talk about not publishing this stuff months ago AND WHY(scroll down after the click)
February 21st 2015Kristen Stewart Makes History
the first American actress to be nominated for a French César award
in 30 years; and also the first American actress EVER to win.
…And this is how the world treats her – and we allow her to be treated.
(see image below)

Even if Kristen Stewart ‘really’ cheated on Robert Pattinson… The misogynistic bullying by paparazzi & tabloids should have been long over by now. Just like Tiger Woods & Arnold Schwarzenegger‘s real & multiple adulterous offenses combined have been. Kristen Stewart is semi-respected in every country except her own. The basic Human Rights of ‘Life, Liberty & Pursuit of Happiness’ should apply as much to her as to any other person on this planet.

Also, Robert Pattinson didn’t create the offensive sparkling vampire of Edward Cullen… The world should really get over that and give him credit for putting up with so much hate from so many Anti-Twilight fans for so long because of it; as well as for putting up with overly-possessive & obsessive semi-crazy fangirlz of all ages who have overly-imagined loving him for so long. How many men out there would have survived that without coming out the other side unjaded? Some men can hardly handle one girlfriend/wife for very long, ha! ;)

Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart both deserve a huge break by their fans and the world.All celebrities need these reforms and have for a long time – this isn’t a new debate.
It is time for adults to start caring about the constant assaults on the hearts and
minds of people beyond the physical condition of their bodies. Suicide has been
an increasing and concerning factor; and the job of the entertainment industry
is to ENTERTAIN. Free Speech was never meant to protect lies for profits.

Example of world bullying: Some fans have been looking for these lost images for a while, and one has finally been found on 3/9/15. If this doesn't shift your opinion about what the tabloids have been doing to emotionally-invested young Twilight fans, I don't know what will. This image of Kristen Stewart carrying papers was missed by many fans because the tabloid removed it early - hoping that fans would forget about it so they (and other tabloids) could twist a full 'cheating scandal' - as opposed to a 'momentary indiscretion' on her. It has worked like a charm for longer than Tiger Woods & Arnold Schwarzenegger's real & multiple adulterous offenses, combined. This image was captured from an early fan-made video. But, you will not find this image among the originally-published lot, anymore - along with at least one other one similar to this that was removed. Btw, if you click on the image – it will take you to a post that talks about these missing images with a TwiMom; along with another email exchange if you're interested in my emails.

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BTW, this poll used to contain 508 votes at one point in time. I'm not sure what has happened with losing votes - either Twihards who originally voted realized their votes were incriminating their beloved goddess/amateur author; OR all these accounts have simply been closed over the course of four months for whatever reasons. Doesn't matter, I've got the original 'important' numbers recorded within these posts.

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