If you came in from an outside link, scroll down past the link table (so sorry!) to read that specific post. Also, scroll down when you click on blog links in here – many of these top links are elsewhere with no introduction.

This isn’t your typical ‘anti-twilight’ blog… This is yet another email (complete with semi-subtle death threat) from someone asking questions about it that some of you may be asking, yourself. Don’t assume that you know what this blog is about simply because you’ve argued on Stephenie Meyer’s behalf before.

This is the very first post on this blog, from my ‘clueless movie fan’ perspective. It was written on Thanksgiving Day, 2011 – then published in here a few days later, after I could reread it and do some editing. It is hysterically funny and incredibly poignant at the same time – for those of you who can’t see Stephenie Meyer’s amateur sexual fantasy floating around in The Twilight Saga. This post is what those of us who ARE familiar with vampires experienced because of Breaking Dawn’s unbelievable ending; and it may help explain for you why this blog exists. It is where absolutely everything started; and demonstrates my intentions for this blog from the beginning. Believe it or not, they were NOT MEAN.

At first, I didn’t know why things were wrong; I only knew that they were – so I was making excuses for Stephenie Meyer in the beginning, LoL! Really… every single estranged TwiFan that she has, USED to be at least a real semi-fan of hers.

Please be patient. I know that most people who are familiar with this controversy have passionate opinions; but what about the rest of you who are completely clueless? I wrote this so that readers would not have to jump off the page, as much. I recommend reading through once; then going back to read links for more details, later. If you get too angry to keep reading, pause and scroll down to the side link collection. I used to be a clueless person in the world, and then a clueless Twilight Movie Fan for a while, too. You’ll see more about me, below. And please forgive the caps, in places. I don’t see them as shouting as some peeps do. They are simply meant to make those words stand out, and that is all…

This blog is all about the accidental and painful over-obsessions of The Twilight Fanbases
that has CONTINUED with a decade of
worldwide bullying and intentional,
emotionally-harsh attacks
on the hearts & minds of little TwiFangirls (and big ones).

The feelings of obsessed fans are real even if
their obsessions are not - until they drift away.
You all KNOW THIS.

Suicide is the 2nd leading cause of death for 15 - 24 year olds in the US.

These are all REAL issues, to name a few - for MILLIONS of people:
Maladaptive Daydreaming


Dissociative Disorder
This one is the worst biggie, and starting
to be considered an EPIDEMIC

Why are the obsessions of young girls important?

Because their feelings are real even if the obsessions are not – until they drift away. Young girls NEED their fairytale ‘escapes’ MUCH MORE than older ones do because they have limited ways to cope with life’s crap (read the comments beneath these neverending, misogynistic tabloid assaults – this one is from January 2016). If you’ve never been forced to endure public high school in the US (or anywhere, probably); or been abused as a child (unfortunately, still a common occurrence) - then of course you can’t possibly relate.

How Did this Blog Change to
Tabloid & Paparazzi Reform

- Yeah, I have some really good reasons beyond
Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson and their Fans
(Although I’m pretty sure they are enough reason at this point.)

Why Do People Hate Bella Swan and Kristen Stewart?
Believe it or not, this is a very easy question to answer;
and NO it isn’t because she ‘cheated’.

TwiNewsflash: The concerning over-obsessions of young women was the ONLY REASON that Breaking Dawn was forgiven when it was published in 2008. The ONLY people who have defended this story for being written ‘just like it is’ because ‘Stephenie Meyer is a literary genius’ are her YOUNG (and young-at-heart) fans who were used by both the amateur author and her publisher because ‘they weren’t supposed to know any better’ about vampires.

And, these are the fans who get hit & hurt the most by world bullying. It is really crappy of SM and you older ladies to continue letting them believe what they believe about these books - while they ignorantly & arrogantly (in their over-obsessions) deal with all the hate surrounding Twilight that still exists in big, dynamic ways.

Email Excerpt: “Thank you for writing that wonderful blog.. it was heaven sent.. Please someone tell him (this is ‘why the cheating scandal started’, Aug 2012). He just texted me and said he told my mom.. and for me to get some help.. and bye.. please tell him… Everyone is doing this and it’s killing me.. but everyone acts like they don’t know what I’m talking about.. I don’t think I’ve ever needed anything so bad in all my life than for someone to tell him.. I know they are trying to drive me crazy.. and it’s starting to work.. thanks again, was truly a blessing I needed to read very much so.”

Another email excerpt that I hear all the time from all types of fans:
I have tried speaking to my good friend about my obsession and, as with all of my friends,
doesn't like Twilight and totally judged me lol so your feedback means a lot.”

How to Soothe an Intense Twilight / Robsessed / Krisbian / Robsten Obsession

Anti-Twilight Fans could SEE what Stephenie Meyer didn’t MEAN to write;
and Erika didn’t MEAN to write her books ignorantly, either.
Adult women have 50 Shades of obsessive fog to get past before
they can possibly begin to think clearly about this subject.

Why does The Twilight Saga have so many anti-fans? Why are there hardly any male fans? How did Twilight’s infamous obsessions become over-obsessions? Why are so many older women more obsessed than younger ones? Why did the fandom fracture into several various fanbases that fight among themselves? How did we get 50 Shades of Grey out of all this commotion?

I recorded four wildly-ranting videos (this one is my favorite – calling SM out, ha!) over three years ago at the height of my own very unwanted Twilight over-obsession (It’s not like you can unwatch or unread something – or reclaim wasted time). At that point, I was really mad about ‘how I was obsessed’ with this pretty fairytale; and I was mad that Stephenie Meyer had ‘accidentally’ done this to so many other people before me - and didn’t correct any of the dysfunction in her books before she made them into movies.

I actually say this in the second video before I had even heard of 50 Shades of Grey... “It sounds to me like Stephenie has some sort of BDSM fetish, but I don’t even sort of want to think about that right now.” (Video #12 is where you will hear me say this.)

And yet, somehow 50 Shades of Grey (this post is what exactly is wrong with fifty shades) exists as Twilight Fanfiction; and is yet another dysfunctional worldwide ‘phenomenon’?! Do you have any idea how disturbing that is? Not only does it make my skin crawl – it’s just wrong.

There are real amateur literary reasons why Twilight messed with so many people’s heads – especially OLDER women; and we are the ones who get called ‘crazy’ for it - unless we manage to write another dysfunctional (XXX!) blockbuster based on all this negligence…

Did you know that Steph’s publisher didn’t want to publish Breaking Dawn? Did you know that New Moon & Eclipse were not supposed to be in between the 1st & last books? Do you ‘get’ that she didn’t mean to cause so many of her OLDER fans to see Edward Cullen the way they came to see him as Christian Grey? Do you understand that these are the reasons why the world has always &STILL bullies Twilight Fans, Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson because of her amateur writing mistakes?

Sick-in-the-head older women had absolutely no right to hijack the pretty fairytale of young girls via Fifty Shades of Grey; and they should care when their daughters are being bullied by the world over it, incessantly.

What’s Wrong with Twilight: Chapter One, First Sight?

The Condensed Version:
The Four Main Complaints of this Blog
against Stephenie Meyer and her ‘professional’ Publishers &
Production Franchise for RARE & irresponsible,
professionally-negligent publishing and movie production.

When the first Twilight movie was being made in 2008; the last book, Breaking Dawn had not been released, yet. Because of this, no one knew at that time that Stephenie Meyer was going to bomb her pretty fairytale into the ground until it was published a few months before the release of the first film.

Extreme chaos & debate surrounded Steph and The Twilight Saga at that time for the exact same reasons that surrounds 50 Shades of Grey - but somehow, she got through it (see side links)...

If 'Midnight Sun' had not been 'accidentally' leaked just prior to the first movie being rushed; AND Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson had not BOTH nailed their parts in that first movie - Twilight would have been history.

Stephenie Meyer could have written any 'ol ending for her infamously overly-obsessed fans (and really, that seems like what she did); and they would have lapped it up like honey (and they did – especially the ones who didn’t know any better, couldn’t see what was wrong – or didn’t care, because of fifty Shades of BEDWARD!!

The entire world has done nothing but treat Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson AND their emotionally-invested fans like sh*t, since - and the infighting among Twilight's divided and HATEFUL fanbases is ongoing.

Despite all this, 'feminists' have embraced the latest and greatest dysfunctional character, Christian Grey/Edward Cullen/Prince Charming...

Popular Email Question: Why does Stephenie Meyer need to apologize? Because the world can’t heal from the wounds she has inflicted on it if she doesn’t acknowledge her amateur mistakes and apologize for them. All she has done from the beginning of her controversies is metaphorically flip off her critics. While normally that is exactly what you are supposed to do… In this case, with all the professional exceptions that were made while The Twilight Saga was being published; the amateur author (AND the publisher AND production franchise) really needed to be listening to fans. It is NOT NORMAL for roughly half of your fanbase (much less, the world!) to become so angry with you regarding a casual creative expression.

I am just using this true stuff about SM’s amateur writing to grab your attention – and boy does it grab some of you, ha! Now if we could just get past that part of things… I really could care less about Stephenie Meyer’s or EL James’ many ignorant and irresponsible amateur literary mistakes that caused all this chaos. Believe it or not, I have stuck up for Stephenie Meyer so many times over this issue, it’s ridiculous.

Creative ‘Freedom of Speech’ is DIFFERENT than the illegal type of ‘Freedom of Speech’ that tabloids & paparazzi hide behind.

Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press were meant to create transparency in order to protect the truth about absolutely everything - not provide a way for mean, greedy tabloid liars to make money off of young (and young-at-heart) fans who are practically defenseless against emotional tabloid & paparazzi assaults (not to mention how even more defenseless Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson are against them)…

This blog now has but one mission: Tabloid & Paparazzi Reform for all celebrities past & present (Princess Diana, anyone?) and it has been that since July 25, 2012 – the day after the infamous cheating scandal. Oh yeah, I’ve been on their stinky tails from the beginning. It hasn’t even been SORT of fun! I really hope we can all manage to put aside our differences and unite to stick it to them, someday. Tabloids & papz so deserve it!!

I don’t care how long it takes. Aside from having really good reasons other than Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson to be concerned for celebrity rights; we fans – no matter which side of the ring we fight on – are getting awfully tired of being manipulated and watching our favorite celebrities being harassed. So many of you do not ‘get’ this; but Robert Pattinson is being attacked and/or used as much as Kristen Stewart in these kinds of stories – no matter ‘how nice’ they seem to be slanted toward him, at times. It is just another way to pour salt on the wounds of their fans by being misogynistic toward both them and Kristen at the same time – using Robert and her anti-fans against their will!!

This is because the world has no respect for Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson or Twilight fans – any version of them; BECAUSE of Stephenie Meyer’s offensive & insulting amateur writing (another reason why she needs to apologize). To the rest of the world, we’re all simply hysterical to bully; just another section of the populace to be targeted and made fun of for profits – via outright assaults and numerous lie upon lie that continues

Boycott all online and print tabloids until they volunteer to reform.



Why Do So Many People Hate Kristen Stewart and/or Bella Swan?
or Why/How did so many of Stephenie Meyer’s OLDER fans become so
‘accidentally’ overly-obsessed with the character of Edward Cullen?
Shortest and most anti-fan & fan-variation-inclusive version that I have written, yet!!
Read it only if you dare… and only if you can be HONEST. ;)

Whatever Happened to the ‘Anti-Twilight Army’
from 2008-2009; and WHY don’t you see their support on this blog?

Stephenie Meyer Knows Why Gossip Rags & Paparazzi won’t leave
Robert Pattinson, Kristen Stewart (or her beloved fans) alone.

That’s why she deserves this blog; and it is why it will not be deleted until either
Steph, her professional cronies and/or her fans do something to fix the situation:

‘They took all of my heat, which I feel bad about,' Stephenie
tells The Times Magazine. ‘If they had the choice, I've no idea if

they'd even do Twilight again. I just don't know.
I think this has all come at a heavy price.'

Ya think, Steph?!!

Robert Pattinson’s Career-Hindering Rover Smear
Based on the Whole Wide World’s Twilight Saga Hate

This movie FLOPPED amidst RARE (for him) GLOWING reviews from movie critics at
film festivals who compared his performance to Leo DiCaprio’s Oscar-Nominated
performance in ‘What’s Eating Gilbert Grape’. Yeah, it’s a HUGE deal!!
This movie would not have tanked without way too much ‘help’ from
tabloid manipulation of Twilight’s huge numbers of anti-fans.

Why the Public Shaming of Kristen Stewart MATTERS to Young Girls
by Nico Lang on Huffington Post

Here’s a splash from Nico’s article: "Trampire:" Why the Public Slut Shaming of Kristen Stewart Matters for Young Women “I don't care if Kristen Stewart and Rupert Sanders did it in a car, in a bar, in a house or with a mouse. But while I might not be concerned for K-Stew, I am concerned for my younger stepsister who idolizes and worships her....” And this is an update from Nico on Salon: Racist 'Twilight' fans won't stop harassing Robert Pattinson's girlfriend, FKA Twigs

Yeah, Twilight’s still-many hateful and overly-obsessed
fans managed to p*ss all over the debut of the proclaimed

Celebrity Rookie of the Year 2014

Aren’t we sweet?




I have had some really good compliments on my corrective-rewrite of The Twilight Saga from both literary experts and Twilight Fans. It is only a summary, with just the first chapter written as complete to give it the foundation that it should have had (takes 2-3 hours for me to read through it all).

Here is one positive review (sorry, have to scroll down to the comments on this post after the click to read): “I have so very many things to say where to start..... Firstly I love your blog and the rewrite, I felt like you have given the characters depth and a new life. If I were a judge I would totally give you custody! … I am even letting my daughter read it with me because its a good story that is appropriate for kids to read and she LOVES LOVES LOVES IT! Just as much as I do! I think what you have written is loving and responsible to the characters and fans, it is well though out, relevant, and…”

BELIEVE me when I say, I would have MUCH RATHER have LOVED Stephenie Meyer's original Twilight Saga all the way to the bittersweet end. There are not many people on this planet who would have been more PROUD and applauding the loudest for a woman (amateur or not) to have written such a hailed TwiMasterpiece - if Stephenie Meyer had actually done that instead of the embarrassing, barely-edited rough-draft that we got.

This corrective re-write summary is actually very forgiving in many places - at least, where Steph is concerned. I'm sure my anger toward these IRRESPONSIBLE "professional" companies will continue to burn for much longer.

I gave your beautiful fairytale a hell of a shot, sinking MONTHS of my time JUST into researching this subject. (Not counting the months before that when you all had me convinced that it was a WORTHY diversion, ha!)

Between these blogs and the rewrite I have probably written as much as either Steph or Erika have; and I certainly put a lot more thought and creativity (not to mention, knowledge) into it. Just insert either author’s purple prose where applicable while you’re reading, since I didn’t write any – and it is darn near perfect, ha! ;)

As such, you can expect my version of The Twilight Saga to not be XXX. I rewrote Twilight by sticking to the storyline; but I made it believable – really, that was possible. In fact, now that Twilight can be shown as a believable story - it is no longer necessary for Anti-Twilight peeps to continue bullying Twilight Fans just because SM didn’t ‘get’ why she needed to make it believable.

WHY did I take the time to flesh out the character of Bella Swan and Twilight’s vampire (and wolf) storylines? BECAUSE VERY FEW OF YOU OLDER LADIES GIVES A SHIT ABOUT HER (and more importantly, the real Human girl, Kristen Stewart and her millions of young fans) - or ANY of the other Twilight characters, for that matter!

It's EDWARD this and EDWARD that (and sometimes Jacob) - Stephenie BARELY INTRODUCED you to her before you all got hooked on this crap. That's why you can pass this story off, you don't care... You're obsessed about Edward Cullen and could care less about any other character. IF this story had been published for you perverted older brats- Yeah, it would maybe be Ok!

I am NOT talking about you young girls if you're in here reading this - I've heard you talk about Bella and all the other characters. I KNOW you both know and love them, dearly. BUT, those of you who WERE NOT debunked by this storyline (no matter what your age was) SEE these characters differently than so many MORE older ladies do!

Believe it or NOT - Stephenie Meyer and the rest of these women out here (I don't care HOW many of them there are against my ONE voice) are BEING BAD, LoL!

IF we were in college... And the instructor had just given us an assignment to write the first chapter for a novel. IF Stephenie Meyer was a college literary student (which she has been - in FACT, she graduated!); she would probably NOT have gotten an "A" on the first chapter of Twilight - I seriously doubt. I wish a few good English teachers who haven't read the books yet would go through it and grade it - just so we would know, for sure.

I'm not saying that *my* version is a literary marvel - but I have a really good excuse. I have NEVER taken a college writing course much less graduated with a literary degree. If this isn't perfect... Yeah, I know. :)

We make our children do their homework - and dot their "I's" and cross their "T's" - but, WHY didn't this grown adult woman have to?!

I'm going to make you all CARE about Bella and her life, as well as every other character surrounding her - INCLUDING EDWARD - who, it seems to me; you've all just taken under the covers with you to have your way with him like Stephenie Meyer was no doubt doing when she WROTE this stupid saga so ignorantly and irresponsibly...

So when it really comes down to it... YOU robsessed ‘fans’ DON'T even care about Robert Pattinson/Edward Cullen, just your sick little "escape"!

The young adult audience that this story was TARGETED FOR - deserved a whole hell of alot better than what they got. THAT is why I rewrote The Twilight Saga... For ALL THOSE former fans who were debunked by Breaking Dawn after it was published; and then abandoned by the arrogant amateur author afterwards.

We KNEW better... and we were EXPECTING better.

AND it IS ALSO for the rest of you... I DARE you; I quadroople-doople DARE you - READ this and tell me you don't care a lot more about Bella at the end of this Chapter One: First Sight rewrite than you did at the end of Stephenie's first one.

You can think whatever you want to about me... But with this, the two things you CAN'T say about me are that *I* don't LOVE this pretty fairytale OR this fanbase.

Yeah, you be the judge – please.


This is a Summary List of Links for this Blog – More Links Galore Within Them!!

Most Popular Keyword Searches
into this blog

The TwiSmears

The Twilight Saga

Stephenie Meyer

The Fanbases

Why the ‘Cheating’ Scandal Started; Telling on My Big TwiSisters (Aug 2012, 1 mo. After)

Nothing but LOVE for
our Twilight Character
Actors & Actresses

An Anti-Twilight Fan's Dream Talk with SM

Twihards - We Movie Fans
Deserve a Discussion

July 2012 'Cheating' Scandal

What actually happened
to Kristen Stewart with Rupert Sanders that day? Why did robsten really break up?

Why is Twilight so Addictive? How Did it Inspire 50 Shades of Grey?

Questions for Steph:
Twilight, a Post-Mortem

Defining Twilight's
Various Fanbases
…In which I actually
stick up for
Stephenie Meyer, OMG!

Additional & Extended Scandal Timelines

- WAY more info than you want; but some peeps just can’t get enough. ;)

What's Wrong with Twilight Chapter
One: First Sight

1st Original Blog Post
- How Can You See
Steph's Sexual Fantasy
Glaring thru Twilight

Letter to My Little Twilight Sisters – Why I Keep Picking on Twilight.

Pre-Cheating Scandal Smears that have been going on since 2008.

Twilight: Breaking Dawn Parts 1 & 2 Movie Reviews
- easiest to see literary dysfunctions

Ramifications of Wrong Writing in the Case of Twilight Addictions
Whatever happened to the Anti-Twilight Army?

Letter to My Big Twilight Sisters – Are You SURE Breaking Dawn is Okay?

Fan & Anti-Fan Hate-Debate; December 2014
- Fans reveal how harmful tabloids have been via online article comments.

Official Reasoning for
Every Little Thing
Wrong with Twilight

The Most Common Keyword Searches into these blogs
HELP with a Twilight Obsession; Immortalicum & ‘Demonic Messages’?!

Why are so Many OLDER
Fans so sick

What Have Heartbroken Fans Been Saying
Since the Scandal in July 2012?

What EXACTLY is Wrong with Stephenie Meyer’s Sparkling ‘Vampires’?
- Written BEFORE I watched her movies.

What a JOKE!
Twilight is Coming to Facebook Because ‘the voices of women are important to Steph’!!

What Does Robert Pattinson Think About His OLDER ‘robsessed’ Twihard & Anti-Twilight ‘Fans’, BOTH?

What Have Mean Fans Been Saying Since the Scandal in July 2012?

YouTube Video Collection
'What's Wrong with The Twilight Saga'

Final Judgment of
The Twilight Saga
Or, Why I HATE (omg!) SM and Her ARMY of Desperate Housewives – et all TwiJerks & Anti-TwiJerks Over 30.

Help Easing a Stubborn
Twilight and/or Robsten

Robert Pattinson's Post-Scandal Career Hindering Rover Smear
- Based on the Wide World’s Twilight Hate

Fanfiction Corrective Rewrite Summary (2+ hours) Edward Cullen
Explains His Pretty
Vampire Sparkles
believable ending
and MORE!

Let’s Talk About ‘Midnight Sun’
and how Steph Could POSSIBLY Make Her Huge Literary Failure up to The World.

Who am I?


The Latest Ridiculous Theories About Just WHO The Overly-Obsessed Twihards & Anti-Twihards Still Are

Sorry, yeah... I am REALLY trying to tug on your
heartstrings with this Fan video.
It may be impossible for you not to cry at the end of this. ;)

This is going to sound like a ramble. As such, the majority of you are probably not going to be able to get through it - and I'll probably keep fiddling with this as things continue to come to me. I really didn't realize how much I knew about Twilight obsessions, the different fan factions, and how they developed (and I already thought I knew quite a bit, ha!).

But now that I've stopped writing on the blog and I'm doing alot more watching 'out there' - more things are coming together in my mind regarding Twilight obsessions and this scandal. (Yeah, I HOPE this is the LAST post I will ever do in here.)

This isn't mean - this is just someone who has done alot of TwiResearch and alot of TwiFighting, finally sitting back and observing. As always, I welcome your comments and observations - logical, reasonable non-hateful ones, PLEASE. Really, I'm SO SICK of those. You could not POSSIBLY say anything new to me.

Yes, this is long – If I wasn’t filled with so much divided hate, rage AND love for this silly saga (and equally silly fanbase – that is an endearing compliment, Twihards. I freakin love you ALL!); this would be far more readable. 

Stephenie Meyer is probably the ONLY AUTHOR on the PLANET who could create such intense DUAL reactions in a person.

For some dumb reason, I am one of the VERY FEW Twilight Fans AND Anti-Twilight Fans (Yeah, I kind of fit into BOTH groups) who can see just about EVERY SIDE of this situation. This is ALSO WHY I can still LOVE you ALL (even the mean girls) because I can SEE WHY you are acting the way you are (even if I’m mad about it).

If you’re wondering why I’m doing this, I’ve said this in here before… Just think of me as maybe being a bit like Rosalie. I DON’T have a PROBLEM with your CHOICE of GROOM!! You can consider that to be The Twilight Saga, 'Robsten', Robert Pattinson, Kristen Stewart OR even Stephenie Meyer - believe it or not, as MAD as I am at HER; in THIS case, I am ON HER SIDE. *I* am on the side of the fanatic little FANkid in all of us!! ;)

This is how I know so much about what’s going on with ‘robsten’. It was sort of a side-effect of doing all this research on The Twilight Saga from a movie fan's perspective. I could see all this stuff happening to us and Kristen & Robert – but I wasn’t really paying attention to it like NONE of us were.

Why would we? The fact that NO ONE has seriously questioned WHY this PR attack even had to happen to YOUNG (and young-at-heart) girls to begin with – AND CONTINUED TO BE SO HARSH FOR SO LONG - is what concerns me.


This is a comment on HL’s most recent gem: Robert Pattinson Hooking Up With Dylan Penn Again

Posted at 8:24 PM on March 28, 2014
ROB U BETTER NOT DATE DYLAN PENN, or I will kill myself. U belong with KStew

It completely eludes me why no one cares about fans like this who are obviously having a hard time dealing after all this time. Does someone actually have to KILL THEMSELVES before this message is taken SERIOUSLY?!!

Maybe the scandal wasn’t/won’t be the root cause, but I BET they’ve been a catalyst for more than a couple of Twilight Fans –because HOLLYWOOD should be a place to ESCAPE from the mundane and often COLD, cruel existence of LIFE; but it hasn’t even SORT of been for Twilight Fans. We should have gotten a TwiRide like Harry Potter or Star Wars!!! It is NOT the gossip rags & paparazzi’s place to CAUSE this kind of CONTINUING emotional turmoil to YOUNG FANS!!! Their JOB is to ENTERTAIN us!!

Was anyone watching LAST YEAR when the two STARS of ‘Vampire Diaries’ (Ian Somerhalder & Nina Dobrev) who were DATING in REAL LIFE broke up? This year they played nice for their fans at the awards shows – even kissing to show them that they still loved each other. Awwww…

Btw, Rob & Kris could NEVER act like this in front of their fans BECAUSE of fans’ ridiculous obsessions surrounding them. If you are one of those fans who has always overly-judged either one of them about this – get a grip. TwiRIOTS would ensue!! But, wouldn’t it be nice if they had the FREEDOM to ‘be this honest’ about their personal lives?

The tabloids carried on about them (Nina & Ian) for awhile – but rumors ended not long after they started instead of continuing like they have for Twilight and ‘robsten’ fans. I mean, they DON’T even have their own ‘Ndob & Ismdr’ headline on HL – WHY?!!

Because Twilight Fans are FAR more obsessed. Vamp Diaries fans are more into their story & CHARACTERS as opposed to the actor & actress like they SHOULD be. That's what happens when you take the time to write, publish AND produce things RESPONSIBLY & CORRECTLY... (Yeah, both Twilight & ANTI-Twilight over-obsessions can be EXPLAINED.)

AND Kristen (a GIRL) got caught ‘cheating’ – THAT is apparently gossip tabloid JUSTIFICATION for carrying on like they have!!! (Nevermind that she DIDN’T get caught ‘cheating’ – she got caught fending off her predatory boss.)

How VERY cliché of Kristen to have gotten caught in a situation like that - and how VERY misogynistic it is of Hollywood to have TWISTED things so meanly, so often and for SO LONG - AND Twilight Fans to ALLOW all this to continue without getting MAD about it and creating their OWN Hollywood DUST UP.

One of the few 'normal' things about the obsessions of Twilight & Anti-Twilight fans is that alot of them cross over into each other. For instance:


Pre-Movie Twilight Book Fans are often the most passionate 'haters' of either Kristen Stewart or Robert Pattinson. (I would hope you all know by now that both Rob & Kris had considerable 'Anti-fan' followings because of Twilight long before the stupid scandal happened. Do a search if you need to.)

And IF fans didn't end up LOVING the way the story was originally written; they often turned out to be the most passionate Anti-Twilight Fans, in general. Have any of you seen those mean 'other Kristen Stewart' YouTube videos that make fun of her? I managed to connect with some people involved with creating those for a few exchanges. Our conversation did not start out about being about Kristen Stewart - YIKES, is all I'm gonna say. I swear, anti-fans like THAT are the reason Stephenie Meyer should NEVER publisher her address. (I'm sure she doesn't. ;)

But that didn't always happen... MANY Twilight fans who didn't appreciate the way the books were written in the end WERE ABLE to brush it off, forgive Stephenie Meyer and ENJOY the movies. These are the fans who would say things like, "I know there's something wrong with Twilight, but it's just a story."

And still yet, MANY book fans who LOVED The Twilight Saga through and through WERE able to transfer their obsessions over to the movie actors relatively easily. That is NOT an insult to those fans, at all. Do you have any idea what kind of IMAGINATION it takes to be able to 'be as into' the actors who portray characters that YOU already know & love, dearly? (It should also be noted that there are MANY Twilight book fans who are NOT fans of the movies - AT ALL. And unfortunately, many of these fans are also Anti-Kristen Stewart and/or Anti-Robert Pattinson fans.)

Twilight book readers were PASSIONATE about The Twilight Saga - that's WHY these movies were made. (Who made them a HIT for you, Twihards?!!)

This is because of the way Stephenie Meyer started out her first book - with such shallow characters and storylines that continued to remain shallow (of course, there was plenty of purple pose to keep readers entertained).

Readers had to 'fill in' the missing gaps and/or correct her writing as they were reading. This made the story of Twilight much more personal and intimate for EACH PERSON who read the books. (How many times have you read Twilight? ;)

So... That means that MANY people who read Twilight have a MUCH more DIRECT connection to the characters of Bella Swan and Edward Cullen (and often the rest of the characters who are barely highlighted in the movies).

It 'feels' to them as if they ARE Bella Swan... This is no-doubt WHY Kristen Stewart has been judged so harshly for so long. Because they ARE Bella/Kristen 'in their heads' - and every time SHE doesn't do something the way they would do it, she gets judged HARSHLY for it. (This is also probably why there was so much CONTROVERSY when Robert Pattinson was cast in Twilight. That Director NEEDED to 'get him RIGHT'!)

That is also WHY some Twilight Fans just cannot STAND to see them separated... Because it FEELS as if Kristen/Bella & Robert/Edward's relationship is/was YOUR personal relationship, too. So yeah, alot of Twilight Fans are still HURT and/or MAD about this hyped up 'cheating' scandal.

It FEELS (to some fans) like Hollywood's tabloids AND mean fans are picking at THEM (directly) instead of Kristen and/or Robert. (This is why this stuff needs to stop.)

And, of course, Hollywood's tabloids & paparazzi have been playing off that for awhile - ever since Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson were cast in Twilight. THAT is how long these two kids AND their diehard fans in the MILLIONS across the globe have been hounded (2008ish).

This is ALSO why some of them really DO NOT like Robert Pattinson as Edward Cullen - because he didn't play the part as they imagined. In other words, he isn't their type for whatever reason, ha!

I honestly think (no, none of this is hard fact) that MOST 'Krisbians' are either original book fans OR younger movie fans (who also probably read the books after they watched the movies - most younger fans have) because they are so deep into their Bella/Kristen obsessions. THEY are her and/or want to be her 'in their heads'. Of course we all do, but these fans have got the Kristen bug BAD. ;)

Btw... Neither 'krisbians' nor 'robsessed' (book or movie) fans are specifically Twilight or Anti-Twilight. They can be into their obsessions without being into the story - easily. My guess is that both groups are probably split in half regarding Twilight. There is no way to know really.

I would put up another poll in here if I thought for a moment that you would respond on it. :)


MOVIE fans became obsessed THROUGH Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson AS the characters of Bella Swan and Edward Cullen. (Especially if they read the books after watching the movies, but not necessarily. I keep saying this - we OLDER girls didn't NEED to read the books, ha!)

So movie fans are often the ones who are the most hung up on these two professional actors, and also SEEM to be less judgmental about them - maybe because they don't have as much of an 'embedded direct connection' as previous book fans.

Book fans who were in on Twilight from book one had to do ALOT of waiting - so they did alot of extra reading, which only drilled them DEEPER into their obsessions with every turn of the page.

This is also how so many (often younger) movie fans also became overly-obsessed - the waiting between movies, and then the waiting for them to come out on DVD. They read the books with the shallow writing in between times - except THEY filled in the empty places with their idealized version of Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson as Bella Swan and Edward Cullen. Movie fans didn't need to insert 'as much of themselves' into the books when they read them - they had Kristen & Robert to do that - although things still became more personal than they should have for them.

THIS is WHY so many Twilight Fans are MORE HUNG UP on Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson than their beloved characters of Bella Swan and Edward Cullen in their favorite fairytale.

For this reason, many movie fan obsessions are not necessarily that much more shallow than original book readers.

These 'movie' fans are also probably the most heartbroken 'robsten' fans who have been taking the BRUNT of all these cruel PR assaults. ADDITIONALLY, if you were an original book fan who was ABLE to transfer your obsession over to Kristen Stewart and/or Robert Pattinson - DOUBLE WHAMMY.

THOSE original book AND movie fans were probably HURTING the MOST when this scandal came down - and MANY of them still are. (Emma/Nutty Madame would be a good example of an original book fan and movie fan. Remember her 'crying youtube' video that everyone made fun of as the scandal was coming down?)

HELP not TRAMPIRE should have been the world's response. SOMEONE should have NIPPED this damn 'cheating' scandal in the bud ASAP.

As far as the obsessions of these kind of fans are concerned (everyone is in varying stages & depths), Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson ARE Bella Swan and Edward Cullen - especially if they read the books AFTER watching the movies and/or were original book fans.

Of COURSE they 'know in their heads' (usually) that they aren't ACTUALLY Bella & Edward... But that's how they FEEL. And their FEELINGS are REAL even if the obsession is not.

HOWEVER, since so many MOVIE fans - especially OLDER ones - have NOT read the books (because we didn't NEED to - we became obsessed with the easily-customizable storyline, ha!) THEY don't 'get' how all these over-obsessions happened. And, of course book fans don't 'get' it because they were engulfed by their Twilight obsession. (I'm guessing that most people who have not read the Twilight books are not as obsessed - but honestly, SOME people can become pretty obsessed JUST via ONE movie. *I* am a perfect example of someone like that. If I had read these books before I watched these movies - it SCARES me to think where I would be right now.)

As far as current MEAN ROBSESSED Anti-Twilight fans go, this is where I think they came from: 1) some of them were original book fans who were disappointed in the book, but couldn’t help continue with the series for awhile – long enough to check out the guy who was going to be bringing BEDward to life; or 2) they were introduced to the original Twilight movie, became enamored, discovered too late how BAD this story was (like me) – and rejected The Twilight Saga before the movies were complete AFTER they realized their OBSESSION and became REPULSED by it - along with everyone else's.)

I kind of fit into this group. *I* was HORRIFIED (and MAD) when I realized JUST WHAT was going on inside my head with Edward Cullen/Robert Pattinson when I realized HOW Stephenie actually wrote her 'saga'. (It's kind of poignant to tie this blog back to the first original post I wrote - brace yourself, it's hysterical. I was so clueless. ;)

Twilight fans, PLEASE don't take offense when I say that it HURTS OUR HEADS & HEARTS BOTH. To say that the storyline of The Twilight Saga is insulting and offensive to us is a simple fact of life that I can't ever see changing.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that robsessed fans became HOT about what went on with Robert's character; AND THEN they got MAD about how Robert Pattinson has been mistreated by BOTH Twilight fans and the paparazzi/tabloids. And of course, their opinions about Kristen Stewart have ALWAYS BEEN manipulated by them...

So, they HATE her and BLAME her for EVERYTHING because she is easy to blame, I guess. They probably didn't 'get into' the way she played Bella, as I was saying above about other fans - OR they sunk too deeply into Robert Pattinson's actual REAL LIFE because they couldn't stand the character of Edward Cullen, and didn't like Kristen (or her personality maybe?) in their fantasy spot.

Sorry, I can't relate to their anger. *I* have never been obsessed over ANY of the actors in this series - even if I can't say the same thing about the CHARACTERS. That's just the way I've always been. Finding out who the 'real' people are behind the characters often RUINS characters for me, ha!

But, LUCKY ME... Twilight was ruined for me several months before these scandals started. I can't blame the papz or tabloids for that part - but ALOT of you out there CAN blame them for INTENTIONALLY-ruining Twilight for you for MONEY.

You should have gotten a Hollywood TwiRide like Harry Potter or Star Wars. This is NOT how the beloved fairytales of emotionally invested YOUNG (and young-at-heart) fans are supposed to end.

FANS... Just REALIZE that you are in a goofy obsession, it WILL PASS eventually - you know this. And in the meantime, you shouldn't let these damn tabloids provoke you into forgetting how to act like grown-up LADIES. Your DAUGHTERS and the world are watching you - and so far, you are failing them as MISERABLY as Stephenie Meyer and HOLLYWOOD has FAILED this fanbase.

Alot of you don't believe me about robsessed (and krisbian) ANTI-Twilight fans being the MAJORITY of mean chicks in comments (not all robsessed fans are Anti-Twilight - and krisbians APPEAR to be mostly Twilight Fans, but not necessarily). Here is a recent comment from one of them on HL - again. They seem to be USING this scandal in an attempt to discredit The Twilight Saga AND Stephenie Meyer without a THOUGHT for anyone but their own sick ROBSESSION:

Summit knew Rob was responsible for the success of Twilight
Posted at 2:42 AM on April 10, 2014  
Perfect birthday present, the truth.
Summit is involved in a lawsuit and documents came out today that show Summit paid Rob only, a bonus of $300,000 after Twilight was such a hit. This proves Summit knew it was a hit because of Rob alone.
She didn’t get any bonus after Twilight. Just like they put a Fast Forward Edward on the dvds, she didn’t get any special treatment on the dvds, either.
It was all about Rob and this proves it. Summit knew he was the one selling tickets to all the women in the theaters. They knew he was the break out star. His fans always knew this, but it’s nice to see that he’s the only one who got such a big bonus.

No Team Bella
Posted at 2:44 AM on April 10, 2014  
While the Twilight series had a female heroine, she wasn’t the one that the female audience was paying to see. There was no Team Bella. Women bought tickets to see the men up on the screen.
Bella worshipped Edward and so did the audience. Fast Forward Edward on the dvds proved that. Totally different from the Jennifer Lawrence-driven Hunger Games franchise. She is the draw for that one.

How it is
Posted at 2:46 AM on April 10, 2014  
Come on people. It’s crystal clear by now that Rob and Kristen are not a couple. They are not secretly dating each other. And they are not going to spend her birthday together whether she’s in NOLA or LA.
The writing has been on the wall since December. He sold his house and left the US on Dec. 2nd, and he hasn’t seen her since. He didn’t spend a single holiday with her last year. Not Valentine’s Day, not his birthday, the 4th of July, Halloween, Thanksgiving or Xmas or NYE.
Even friends get together once in a while, but he’s proved he’s not interested in seeing her.
It’s been nearly a year now. Let it go.

Btw, SINCE robsessed fans seem to value Jennifer Lawrence
so much more than Kristen Stewart; AND they don't seem to care
about Robert Pattinson or his fans AT ALL - perhaps we can agree
to unite for HER instead of even THINKING about Rob or Kris, huh?

8/12/13 - Jennifer Lawrence: "If I were just your average 23-year-old girl," she says, "and I called the police to say that there were strange men sleeping on my lawn and following me to Starbucks, they would leap into action. But because I am a famous person, well, sorry, ma'am, there's nothing we can do. It makes no sense."

This is a very soothing read for most Twilight & Anti-Twilight Fans
no matter who you're mad at or why - Promise, I won't poke at you anymore.
(This is also on a different blog with no intro.)

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