Sorry, yeah... I am REALLY trying to tug on your
heartstrings with this Fan video.
heartstrings with this Fan video.
WARNING:
It may be impossible for you not to cry at the end of this. ;)
This is going to sound like a ramble. As such, the majority of you are probably not going to be able to get through it - and I'll probably keep fiddling with this as things continue to come to me. I really didn't realize how much I knew about Twilight obsessions, the different fan factions, and how they developed (and I already thought I knew quite a bit, ha!).
But now that I've stopped writing on the blog and I'm doing alot more watching 'out there' - more things are coming together in my mind regarding Twilight obsessions and this scandal. (Yeah, I HOPE this is the LAST post I will ever do in here.)
But now that I've stopped writing on the blog and I'm doing alot more watching 'out there' - more things are coming together in my mind regarding Twilight obsessions and this scandal. (Yeah, I HOPE this is the LAST post I will ever do in here.)
This isn't mean - this is just someone who has done alot of TwiResearch and alot of TwiFighting, finally sitting back and observing. As always, I welcome your comments and observations - logical, reasonable non-hateful ones, PLEASE. Really, I'm SO SICK of those. You could not POSSIBLY say anything new to me.
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Yes, this is long – If I wasn’t filled with so much divided hate, rage AND love for this silly saga (and equally silly fanbase – that is an endearing compliment, Twihards. I freakin love you ALL!); this would be far more readable.
Stephenie Meyer is probably the ONLY AUTHOR on the PLANET who could create such intense DUAL reactions in a person.
For some dumb reason, I am one of the VERY FEW Twilight Fans AND Anti-Twilight Fans (Yeah, I kind of fit into BOTH groups) who can see just about EVERY SIDE of this situation. This is ALSO WHY I can still LOVE you ALL (even the mean girls) because I can SEE WHY you are acting the way you are (even if I’m mad about it).
If you’re wondering why I’m doing this, I’ve said this in here before… Just think of me as maybe being a bit like Rosalie. I DON’T have a PROBLEM with your CHOICE of GROOM!! You can consider that to be The Twilight Saga, 'Robsten', Robert Pattinson, Kristen Stewart OR even Stephenie Meyer - believe it or not, as MAD as I am at HER; in THIS case, I am ON HER SIDE. *I* am on the side of the fanatic little FANkid in all of us!! ;)
This is how I know so much about what’s going on with ‘robsten’. It was sort of a side-effect of doing all this research on The Twilight Saga from a movie fan's perspective. I could see all this stuff happening to us and Kristen & Robert – but I wasn’t really paying attention to it like NONE of us were.
Why would we? The fact that NO ONE has seriously questioned WHY this PR attack even had to happen to YOUNG (and young-at-heart) girls to begin with – AND CONTINUED TO BE SO HARSH FOR SO LONG - is what concerns me.
HERE’S WHY:
RaeRae
Posted at 8:24 PM on March 28, 2014
ROB U BETTER NOT DATE DYLAN PENN, or I will kill myself. U belong with KStew
Maybe the scandal wasn’t/won’t be the root cause, but I BET they’ve been a catalyst for more than a couple of Twilight Fans –because HOLLYWOOD should be a place to ESCAPE from the mundane and often COLD, cruel existence of LIFE; but it hasn’t even SORT of been for Twilight Fans. We should have gotten a TwiRide like Harry Potter or Star Wars!!! It is NOT the gossip rags & paparazzi’s place to CAUSE this kind of CONTINUING emotional turmoil to YOUNG FANS!!! Their JOB is to ENTERTAIN us!!
Was anyone watching LAST YEAR when the two STARS of ‘Vampire Diaries’ (Ian Somerhalder & Nina Dobrev) who were DATING in REAL LIFE broke up? This year they played nice for their fans at the awards shows – even kissing to show them that they still loved each other. Awwww…
Btw, Rob & Kris could NEVER act like this in front of their fans BECAUSE of fans’ ridiculous obsessions surrounding them. If you are one of those fans who has always overly-judged either one of them about this – get a grip. TwiRIOTS would ensue!! But, wouldn’t it be nice if they had the FREEDOM to ‘be this honest’ about their personal lives?
The tabloids carried on about them (Nina & Ian) for awhile – but rumors ended not long after they started instead of continuing like they have for Twilight and ‘robsten’ fans. I mean, they DON’T even have their own ‘Ndob & Ismdr’ headline on HL – WHY?!!
Because Twilight Fans are FAR more obsessed. Vamp Diaries fans are more into their story & CHARACTERS as opposed to the actor & actress like they SHOULD be. That's what happens when you take the time to write, publish AND produce things RESPONSIBLY & CORRECTLY... (Yeah, both Twilight & ANTI-Twilight over-obsessions can be EXPLAINED.)
AND Kristen (a GIRL) got caught ‘cheating’ – THAT is apparently gossip tabloid JUSTIFICATION for carrying on like they have!!! (Nevermind that she DIDN’T get caught ‘cheating’ – she got caught fending off her predatory boss.)
How VERY cliché of Kristen to have gotten caught in a situation like that - and how VERY misogynistic it is of Hollywood to have TWISTED things so meanly, so often and for SO LONG - AND Twilight Fans to ALLOW all this to continue without getting MAD about it and creating their OWN Hollywood DUST UP.
TWILIGHT BOOK FAN OBSESSIONS
Pre-Movie Twilight Book Fans are often the most passionate 'haters' of either Kristen Stewart or Robert Pattinson. (I would hope you all know by now that both Rob & Kris had considerable 'Anti-fan' followings because of Twilight long before the stupid scandal happened. Do a search if you need to.)
And IF fans didn't end up LOVING the way the story was originally written; they often turned out to be the most passionate Anti-Twilight Fans, in general. Have any of you seen those mean 'other Kristen Stewart' YouTube videos that make fun of her? I managed to connect with some people involved with creating those for a few exchanges. Our conversation did not start out about being about Kristen Stewart - YIKES, is all I'm gonna say. I swear, anti-fans like THAT are the reason Stephenie Meyer should NEVER publisher her address. (I'm sure she doesn't. ;)
And IF fans didn't end up LOVING the way the story was originally written; they often turned out to be the most passionate Anti-Twilight Fans, in general. Have any of you seen those mean 'other Kristen Stewart' YouTube videos that make fun of her? I managed to connect with some people involved with creating those for a few exchanges. Our conversation did not start out about being about Kristen Stewart - YIKES, is all I'm gonna say. I swear, anti-fans like THAT are the reason Stephenie Meyer should NEVER publisher her address. (I'm sure she doesn't. ;)
But that didn't always happen... MANY Twilight fans who didn't appreciate the way the books were written in the end WERE ABLE to brush it off, forgive Stephenie Meyer and ENJOY the movies. These are the fans who would say things like, "I know there's something wrong with Twilight, but it's just a story."
And still yet, MANY book fans who LOVED The Twilight Saga through and through WERE able to transfer their obsessions over to the movie actors relatively easily. That is NOT an insult to those fans, at all. Do you have any idea what kind of IMAGINATION it takes to be able to 'be as into' the actors who portray characters that YOU already know & love, dearly? (It should also be noted that there are MANY Twilight book fans who are NOT fans of the movies - AT ALL. And unfortunately, many of these fans are also Anti-Kristen Stewart and/or Anti-Robert Pattinson fans.)
Twilight book readers were PASSIONATE about The Twilight Saga - that's WHY these movies were made. (Who made them a HIT for you, Twihards?!!)
Twilight book readers were PASSIONATE about The Twilight Saga - that's WHY these movies were made. (Who made them a HIT for you, Twihards?!!)
This is because of the way Stephenie Meyer started out her first book - with such shallow characters and storylines that continued to remain shallow (of course, there was plenty of purple pose to keep readers entertained).
Readers had to 'fill in' the missing gaps and/or correct her writing as they were reading. This made the story of Twilight much more personal and intimate for EACH PERSON who read the books. (How many times have you read Twilight? ;)
So... That means that MANY people who read Twilight have a MUCH more DIRECT connection to the characters of Bella Swan and Edward Cullen (and often the rest of the characters who are barely highlighted in the movies).
It 'feels' to them as if they ARE Bella Swan... This is no-doubt WHY Kristen Stewart has been judged so harshly for so long. Because they ARE Bella/Kristen 'in their heads' - and every time SHE doesn't do something the way they would do it, she gets judged HARSHLY for it. (This is also probably why there was so much CONTROVERSY when Robert Pattinson was cast in Twilight. That Director NEEDED to 'get him RIGHT'!)
That is also WHY some Twilight Fans just cannot STAND to see them separated... Because it FEELS as if Kristen/Bella & Robert/Edward's relationship is/was YOUR personal relationship, too. So yeah, alot of Twilight Fans are still HURT and/or MAD about this hyped up 'cheating' scandal.
It FEELS (to some fans) like Hollywood's tabloids AND mean fans are picking at THEM (directly) instead of Kristen and/or Robert. (This is why this stuff needs to stop.)
And, of course, Hollywood's tabloids & paparazzi have been playing off that for awhile - ever since Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson were cast in Twilight. THAT is how long these two kids AND their diehard fans in the MILLIONS across the globe have been hounded (2008ish).
This is ALSO why some of them really DO NOT like Robert Pattinson as Edward Cullen - because he didn't play the part as they imagined. In other words, he isn't their type for whatever reason, ha!
I honestly think (no, none of this is hard fact) that MOST 'Krisbians' are either original book fans OR younger movie fans (who also probably read the books after they watched the movies - most younger fans have) because they are so deep into their Bella/Kristen obsessions. THEY are her and/or want to be her 'in their heads'. Of course we all do, but these fans have got the Kristen bug BAD. ;)
Btw... Neither 'krisbians' nor 'robsessed' (book or movie) fans are specifically Twilight or Anti-Twilight. They can be into their obsessions without being into the story - easily. My guess is that both groups are probably split in half regarding Twilight. There is no way to know really.
I would put up another poll in here if I thought for a moment that you would respond on it. :)
Btw... Neither 'krisbians' nor 'robsessed' (book or movie) fans are specifically Twilight or Anti-Twilight. They can be into their obsessions without being into the story - easily. My guess is that both groups are probably split in half regarding Twilight. There is no way to know really.I would put up another poll in here if I thought for a moment that you would respond on it. :)
HOW TWILIGHT MOVIE FAN OBSESSIONS are DIFFERENT
MOVIE fans became obsessed THROUGH Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson AS the characters of Bella Swan and Edward Cullen. (Especially if they read the books after watching the movies, but not necessarily. I keep saying this - we OLDER girls didn't NEED to read the books, ha!)
So movie fans are often the ones who are the most hung up on these two professional actors, and also SEEM to be less judgmental about them - maybe because they don't have as much of an 'embedded direct connection' as previous book fans.
Book fans who were in on Twilight from book one had to do ALOT of waiting - so they did alot of extra reading, which only drilled them DEEPER into their obsessions with every turn of the page.
This is also how so many (often younger) movie fans also became overly-obsessed - the waiting between movies, and then the waiting for them to come out on DVD. They read the books with the shallow writing in between times - except THEY filled in the empty places with their idealized version of Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson as Bella Swan and Edward Cullen. Movie fans didn't need to insert 'as much of themselves' into the books when they read them - they had Kristen & Robert to do that - although things still became more personal than they should have for them.
THIS is WHY so many Twilight Fans are MORE HUNG UP on Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson than their beloved characters of Bella Swan and Edward Cullen in their favorite fairytale.
For this reason, many movie fan obsessions are not necessarily that much more shallow than original book readers.
These 'movie' fans are also probably the most heartbroken 'robsten' fans who have been taking the BRUNT of all these cruel PR assaults. ADDITIONALLY, if you were an original book fan who was ABLE to transfer your obsession over to Kristen Stewart and/or Robert Pattinson - DOUBLE WHAMMY.
THOSE original book AND movie fans were probably HURTING the MOST when this scandal came down - and MANY of them still are. (Emma/Nutty Madame would be a good example of an original book fan and movie fan. Remember her 'crying youtube' video that everyone made fun of as the scandal was coming down?)
HELP not TRAMPIRE should have been the world's response. SOMEONE should have NIPPED this damn 'cheating' scandal in the bud ASAP.
As far as the obsessions of these kind of fans are concerned (everyone is in varying stages & depths), Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson ARE Bella Swan and Edward Cullen - especially if they read the books AFTER watching the movies and/or were original book fans.
Of COURSE they 'know in their heads' (usually) that they aren't ACTUALLY Bella & Edward... But that's how they FEEL. And their FEELINGS are REAL even if the obsession is not.
So movie fans are often the ones who are the most hung up on these two professional actors, and also SEEM to be less judgmental about them - maybe because they don't have as much of an 'embedded direct connection' as previous book fans.
Book fans who were in on Twilight from book one had to do ALOT of waiting - so they did alot of extra reading, which only drilled them DEEPER into their obsessions with every turn of the page.
This is also how so many (often younger) movie fans also became overly-obsessed - the waiting between movies, and then the waiting for them to come out on DVD. They read the books with the shallow writing in between times - except THEY filled in the empty places with their idealized version of Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson as Bella Swan and Edward Cullen. Movie fans didn't need to insert 'as much of themselves' into the books when they read them - they had Kristen & Robert to do that - although things still became more personal than they should have for them.
THIS is WHY so many Twilight Fans are MORE HUNG UP on Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson than their beloved characters of Bella Swan and Edward Cullen in their favorite fairytale.
For this reason, many movie fan obsessions are not necessarily that much more shallow than original book readers.
These 'movie' fans are also probably the most heartbroken 'robsten' fans who have been taking the BRUNT of all these cruel PR assaults. ADDITIONALLY, if you were an original book fan who was ABLE to transfer your obsession over to Kristen Stewart and/or Robert Pattinson - DOUBLE WHAMMY.
THOSE original book AND movie fans were probably HURTING the MOST when this scandal came down - and MANY of them still are. (Emma/Nutty Madame would be a good example of an original book fan and movie fan. Remember her 'crying youtube' video that everyone made fun of as the scandal was coming down?)
HELP not TRAMPIRE should have been the world's response. SOMEONE should have NIPPED this damn 'cheating' scandal in the bud ASAP.
As far as the obsessions of these kind of fans are concerned (everyone is in varying stages & depths), Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson ARE Bella Swan and Edward Cullen - especially if they read the books AFTER watching the movies and/or were original book fans.
Of COURSE they 'know in their heads' (usually) that they aren't ACTUALLY Bella & Edward... But that's how they FEEL. And their FEELINGS are REAL even if the obsession is not.
HOWEVER, since so many MOVIE fans - especially OLDER ones - have NOT read the books (because we didn't NEED to - we became obsessed with the easily-customizable storyline, ha!) THEY don't 'get' how all these over-obsessions happened. And, of course book fans don't 'get' it because they were engulfed by their Twilight obsession. (I'm guessing that most people who have not read the Twilight books are not as obsessed - but honestly, SOME people can become pretty obsessed JUST via ONE movie. *I* am a perfect example of someone like that. If I had read these books before I watched these movies - it SCARES me to think where I would be right now.)
As far as current MEAN ROBSESSED Anti-Twilight fans go, this is where I think they came from: 1) some of them were original book fans who were disappointed in the book, but couldn’t help continue with the series for awhile – long enough to check out the guy who was going to be bringing BEDward to life; or 2) they were introduced to the original Twilight movie, became enamored, discovered too late how BAD this story was (like me) – and rejected The Twilight Saga before the movies were complete AFTER they realized their OBSESSION and became REPULSED by it - along with everyone else's.)
As far as current MEAN ROBSESSED Anti-Twilight fans go, this is where I think they came from: 1) some of them were original book fans who were disappointed in the book, but couldn’t help continue with the series for awhile – long enough to check out the guy who was going to be bringing BEDward to life; or 2) they were introduced to the original Twilight movie, became enamored, discovered too late how BAD this story was (like me) – and rejected The Twilight Saga before the movies were complete AFTER they realized their OBSESSION and became REPULSED by it - along with everyone else's.)
I kind of fit into this group. *I* was HORRIFIED (and MAD) when I realized JUST WHAT was going on inside my head with Edward Cullen/Robert Pattinson when I realized HOW Stephenie actually wrote her 'saga'. (It's kind of poignant to tie this blog back to the first original post I wrote - brace yourself, it's hysterical. I was so clueless. ;)
Twilight fans, PLEASE don't take offense when I say that it HURTS OUR HEADS & HEARTS BOTH. To say that the storyline of The Twilight Saga is insulting and offensive to us is a simple fact of life that I can't ever see changing.
Twilight fans, PLEASE don't take offense when I say that it HURTS OUR HEADS & HEARTS BOTH. To say that the storyline of The Twilight Saga is insulting and offensive to us is a simple fact of life that I can't ever see changing.
I'm going to take a wild guess and say that robsessed fans became HOT about what went on with Robert's character; AND THEN they got MAD about how Robert Pattinson has been mistreated by BOTH Twilight fans and the paparazzi/tabloids. And of course, their opinions about Kristen Stewart have ALWAYS BEEN manipulated by them...
So, they HATE her and BLAME her for EVERYTHING because she is easy to blame, I guess. They probably didn't 'get into' the way she played Bella, as I was saying above about other fans - OR they sunk too deeply into Robert Pattinson's actual REAL LIFE because they couldn't stand the character of Edward Cullen, and didn't like Kristen (or her personality maybe?) in their fantasy spot.
Sorry, I can't relate to their anger. *I* have never been obsessed over ANY of the actors in this series - even if I can't say the same thing about the CHARACTERS. That's just the way I've always been. Finding out who the 'real' people are behind the characters often RUINS characters for me, ha!
But, LUCKY ME... Twilight was ruined for me several months before these scandals started. I can't blame the papz or tabloids for that part - but ALOT of you out there CAN blame them for INTENTIONALLY-ruining Twilight for you for MONEY.
You should have gotten a Hollywood TwiRide like Harry Potter or Star Wars. This is NOT how the beloved fairytales of emotionally invested YOUNG (and young-at-heart) fans are supposed to end.
Sorry, I can't relate to their anger. *I* have never been obsessed over ANY of the actors in this series - even if I can't say the same thing about the CHARACTERS. That's just the way I've always been. Finding out who the 'real' people are behind the characters often RUINS characters for me, ha!
But, LUCKY ME... Twilight was ruined for me several months before these scandals started. I can't blame the papz or tabloids for that part - but ALOT of you out there CAN blame them for INTENTIONALLY-ruining Twilight for you for MONEY.
You should have gotten a Hollywood TwiRide like Harry Potter or Star Wars. This is NOT how the beloved fairytales of emotionally invested YOUNG (and young-at-heart) fans are supposed to end.
FANS... Just REALIZE that you are in a goofy obsession, it WILL PASS eventually - you know this. And in the meantime, you shouldn't let these damn tabloids provoke you into forgetting how to act like grown-up LADIES. Your DAUGHTERS and the world are watching you - and so far, you are failing them as MISERABLY as Stephenie Meyer and HOLLYWOOD has FAILED this fanbase.
Alot of you don't believe me about robsessed (and krisbian) ANTI-Twilight fans being the MAJORITY of mean chicks in comments (not all robsessed fans are Anti-Twilight - and krisbians APPEAR to be mostly Twilight Fans, but not necessarily). Here is a recent comment from one of them on HL - again. They seem to be USING this scandal in an attempt to discredit The Twilight Saga AND Stephenie Meyer without a THOUGHT for anyone but their own sick ROBSESSION:
Summit knew Rob was responsible for the success of Twilight
Posted at 2:42 AM on April 10, 2014
Perfect birthday present, the truth.
Summit is involved in a lawsuit and documents came out today that show Summit paid Rob only, a bonus of $300,000 after Twilight was such a hit. This proves Summit knew it was a hit because of Rob alone.
She didn’t get any bonus after Twilight. Just like they put a Fast Forward Edward on the dvds, she didn’t get any special treatment on the dvds, either.
It was all about Rob and this proves it. Summit knew he was the one selling tickets to all the women in the theaters. They knew he was the break out star. His fans always knew this, but it’s nice to see that he’s the only one who got such a big bonus.
No Team Bella
Posted at 2:44 AM on April 10, 2014
While the Twilight series had a female heroine, she wasn’t the one that the female audience was paying to see. There was no Team Bella. Women bought tickets to see the men up on the screen.
Bella worshipped Edward and so did the audience. Fast Forward Edward on the dvds proved that. Totally different from the Jennifer Lawrence-driven Hunger Games franchise. She is the draw for that one.
How it is
Posted at 2:46 AM on April 10, 2014
Come on people. It’s crystal clear by now that Rob and Kristen are not a couple. They are not secretly dating each other. And they are not going to spend her birthday together whether she’s in NOLA or LA.
The writing has been on the wall since December. He sold his house and left the US on Dec. 2nd, and he hasn’t seen her since. He didn’t spend a single holiday with her last year. Not Valentine’s Day, not his birthday, the 4th of July, Halloween, Thanksgiving or Xmas or NYE.
Even friends get together once in a while, but he’s proved he’s not interested in seeing her.
It’s been nearly a year now. Let it go.
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Btw, SINCE robsessed fans seem to value Jennifer Lawrence
so much more than Kristen Stewart; AND they don't seem to care
about Robert Pattinson or his fans AT ALL - perhaps we can agree
to unite for HER instead of even THINKING about Rob or Kris, huh?
so much more than Kristen Stewart; AND they don't seem to care
about Robert Pattinson or his fans AT ALL - perhaps we can agree
to unite for HER instead of even THINKING about Rob or Kris, huh?
8/12/13 - Jennifer Lawrence: "If I were just your average 23-year-old girl," she says, "and I called the police to say that there were strange men sleeping on my lawn and following me to Starbucks, they would leap into action. But because I am a famous person, well, sorry, ma'am, there's nothing we can do. It makes no sense."
This is a very soothing read for most Twilight & Anti-Twilight Fans
no matter who you're mad at or why - Promise, I won't poke at you anymore.
(This is also on a different blog with no intro.)
no matter who you're mad at or why - Promise, I won't poke at you anymore.
(This is also on a different blog with no intro.)
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